Digital BW, The Print

Roger,

>I have an 1160 printing with your curves and MIS qads.  I've been happy 
>with it, but unfortunately it's about at the end of it's life span.  
>I've been following the thread concerning the 2000P.  You seem to have 
>a very high opinion of this printer and the way it prints b&W.  Would 
>it be a reasonable replacement for my old trusty 1160.  Sounds like 
>it's a heavy duty machine.  I see some good used ones now and again, 
>should I grab one?

I think it is a serious contender for affordable 13" B&W printing.

I don't want to oversell the machine, however.  The 2200, for example, is an
excellent product.  If one wants a variable-tone printer for matte and
glossy work, the 2200 is the top of the heap, but considerably more
expensive.  I have no current plans to write curves for controlling a
variable-tone inkset in the 2000P.  So, it's aimed at the monotone UT-FS and
FSN inksets. 

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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> Message: 25
>    Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:29:37 -0700
>    From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@verizon.net>
> Subject: RE: 2000P question???????
>
> Christina,
>
>> ... 2000P ... traditional darkroom printer and am
>> not very knowledgeable with digital darkroom.
>> I have Paint Shop Pro 7.
>> I would love to use my printer to it's potential and
>> print b&w photos.
>
>> Do I just need to purchase inks other than Epson's
>> to achieve this?
>
> I have a 2000P here that I am fine tuning for B&W as I write this.  So 
> far,
> I'd say the machine is a great B&W printer with MIS UT-FS (warm) and 
> UT-FSN
> (neutral) carbon pigment inks at least on matte paper.  I've posted the
> control curves for a number of matte papers on my website.  You can 
> either
> get there from my main one or from the index for inkset information at
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/index.htm. See also from that page the 
> 2000P
> information sheet, located under the "Information on Monotone FS 
> inksets in
> Hextone printers" subtitle.  I am updating it as I make more curves.
>
> What you need is the ink from MIS Associates, which will soon be 
> posted at
> http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/qn.html, and the 
> software
> that can utilize the curves I write.  The curves are written on 
> Photoshop
> (expensive) and can be applied also in Picture Window (cheap, but only 
> for
> PC).  (See Digital Light and Color for Picture Window, at 
> www.dl-c.com.)
> The curves are not compatible with Paint Shop Pro, unless they have 
> recently
> changed things.
>
>> What quality scan would be required?
>
> I use Nikon and find it worth the money.  Above the Nikon 4000 dpi 
> quality
> level I doubt there is a very good return to the extra money spent.  
> Some
> say the latest 4800 dpi Epson flatbeds can do a good job on medium 
> format.
> However, flatbed resolution needs to be cut in half to compare the 
> sharpness
> to that of a good film scanner like the Nikon.
>
> .Of course I have attempted to print b&w on this printer before but
>> gave up figuring I could never match the darkroom.
>
> The Epson color inks in the 2000P are terrible for B&W.  All of us who 
> do
> B&W digital printing have tried and given up trying to get top notch 
> prints
> form color inksets.  The UltraChrome printers do OK, but only when one 
> buys
> a third party RIP that is more expensive than a second printer.  The
> dedicated B&W carbon pigment inkset is by far the best way to go.
>
> MIS should have the 2000P UT-FS inksets in stock soon.
>
> Once you get down the learning curve a little with carbon pigment 
> printing,
> you'll never go back to the darkroom.  The digital carbon prints are 
> simply
> superior.  Don't let a little initial frustration stop your from going 
> this
> route.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>
>
>




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