Digital BW, The Print

Did you try the Lyson Darkroom Gloss paper with the Lyson Quad Blacks?  
Best match I've seen so far to a silver print, but only in daylight or 
D65 lighting.  The Lyson black inks are highly metameric and the 
beautiful neutral prints you see in daylight appear red/purple under 
incandescent lighting.  There is no bronzing and a nice soft gloss - 
like an air dried glossy silver print.  I'm waiting to see if the new 
Daylight Darkroom inks improve the metamerism issue.

On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, at 12:21  AM, Douglas Meeuwsen wrote:

>
> hello all.....well I am still looking for a glossy paper success
> story......I have now lowered my standards again! I dont care if a
> print only lasts one month. I am looking for a way to get a BW print on
> glossy paper, with a standard photographic look. Bronzing is not
> tolerable. People look at a print that has bronzing and they wait about
> one second and say...."did you do this on your printer or
> something?..... What i need is to be able able to put a print in
> someone's hand and have them think that it was "developed", and
> therefore a "real photo"......(that is booking agent thinking by the
> way)......not to be confused with a nice art print that will be under
> glass, which the UT2 inks and art papers do so well. I have both a
> epson 1280, and an epson 1200. The 1280 ihas the UT2 inks. If you have
> been reading my posts, you'll remember that  I am marginally satisfied
> with spraying etc....but the pigments really dont cut it for gloss when
> it comes right down to it. Most everybody agrees I think. SO ...I also
> have the 1200 with lyson quad black dye inks. These are a pain with all
> gloss papers too it seems. Lyson claims that they work with gloss, but
> no matter waht, the dark areas ALWAYS turn blue when they dry. That is
> on all gloss papers ecept epson cheap photopaper, which shows bronzing
> real bad with the lysons. None of the other papers show bronzing, just
> the blue color at 85% dark. I have tried profiles, curves, CMYK curves,
> yadda yadda yadda......Black only is out of the question on the 1200,
> because the dot pattern is really horrible......so I gave up on these
> inks once before, and got the 1280, but still have this albatross of
> gloss incompetence around my neck. ...does the R800 do gloss BW? It
> seems that the 800 should be good for BO...BUT.....does it print on
> gloss paper? Really really really?
> I made a print on an HP that is supposed to do great BW, but it looked
> wierd to me. Not bad but weird.  Geez.....