On Nov 11, 2004, at 12:19 AM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > > There are 6 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Epson 1280 Cart Question > From: "Bob Michaels" <bob@...> > 2. drivers and stuff > From: Dean <dean@tbc.t-com.ne.jp> > 3. dpi and stuff > From: Dean <dean@tbc.t-com.ne.jp> > 4. Re: Profile for Hahnemuhle Photorag paper > From: "adolphamster" <dolph@...> > 5. Re: dpi and stuff > From: "Bob Michaels" <bob@...> > 6. RE: dpi and stuff > From: "ellery" <ellery@...> > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 23:54:30 -0000 > From: "Bob Michaels" <bob@...> > Subject: Re: Epson 1280 Cart Question > > > Don: again, same ease. A few cleaning cycles usually cleans it up. But > remember a cleaning cycle does use quite a bit of ink. Eventually, > you'll end up switching less and less. > > My configuration changes frequently, but right now I'm using Eboni K > and dye color in my 1280. But just love the look a BO using Eboni. > > Bob Michaels > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "donbga" > <dstevenbryant@m...> wrote: >> >>> >>> yes, easy to do and no problems. >>> >>> Bob Michaels >>> >> >> Thanks Bob! >> >> Let me abstract my question a bit more. Could one easily switch from >> hextone to color inks given that a small cleaning or purge would be >> required? >> >> Don Bryant > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:38:33 +0900 > From: Dean <dean@tbc.t-com.ne.jp> > Subject: drivers and stuff > > Hey! > > Still on my search here in Japan for setting up a digital darkroom. > > Yesterday I went to the showroom at the Epson Plaza in Shinjuku, Tokyo > and chatted with a rep there. He was very helpful (unlike the Epson rep > in Epson's Epsite Gallery in another part of Shinjuku). I wanted to > know > if my English language computer plus Epson's English language software > (downloaded from the US site) would drive the Japanese PM-4000PX (aka > 2200). > > I don't really understand computer stuff, but I'm told that that > "...the > problem, if there is one, would arise because the character-generator > PROM would put things in different places, so you might get moji-bake > (illegal characters) for some so-called "high ASCII." " > > When I asked about using the English OS and drivers, the rep told me > "Not recommended." I told him I had my friend's laptop with me with the > drivers on it, and he instantly turned into a bundle of energy and > whipped out the printer and we set it up. > > It printed the test page okay, and we tried a colour image on it. > Unfortunately the image was only a poor shot from a lower end digital > P&S (so much for being prepared - everything but a good image). It > printed okay, but at a rather poor quality, I guess cos the guy hit > "scale to fit media" and I think that stretched the photo out a bit, > and > he printed at only 1440 dpi. > > About then I got a call from work with an emergency, so I was > distracted > a bit and didn't really think about what was happening at the time. > > Anyway, the rep seemed to think all this was evidence enough that the > English driver would work the Japanese printer. I still have some > reservations as, while nothing looked outrageously wrong with the > print, it is not really proof of any fine printing capabilities. > > Anyone have any ideas on this? Does it sound like I have enough > evidence > that the driver will work? > > Thanks. > > Sooner, > Dean > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:50:08 +0900 > From: Dean <dean@tbc.t-com.ne.jp> > Subject: dpi and stuff > > Hey! > > I just read on another camera forum that Epson's printers all print at > a > "native" resolution of 360dpi and that printing at anything else is > pointless because the driver just re-samples the image to 360dpi. Is > this true? > > I notice that the you can select select things like "superPhoto-2880" > on > the driver. Does this refer to how much ink it can squeeze into it's > native 360 dots per inch? > > Slightly confused now. > > Thanks, > Dean > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 01:48:53 -0000 > From: "adolphamster" <dolph@...> > Subject: Re: Profile for Hahnemuhle Photorag paper > > > Thank you once again for your prompt help. I am perplexed. I found the > files and followed your instructions (several times) with the > following results: > > When I tried to "save as" in Netscape, the only choice was "all > files". I did that, but when I went to the folder in which I'd saved > the files, true enough, they were listed with acv file types but under > "file type" in the directory it still said htm. > > I then tried the same thing in Explorer. I had almost the same result. > When I went to save it I did have the option of changing from htm to > "all types", but the end result was the same. > > I've not had this problem previously so, it is likely I'm doing > something wrong. Can you help once again? > > Thank you. > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: >> There are specific curves for UT2 and Hahnemuhle PhotoRag. You can > download >> them from my website or from MIS's. >> >> Paul >> www.PaulRoark.com >> ______________________________ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: adolphamster [mailto:dolph@m...] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:55 PM >> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [Digital BW] Profile for Hahnemuhle Photorag paper >> >> >> >> I have been using Epson Heavyweight Matte paper with my Epson 1280 >> printer and UT2/MIS inks. I now want to try changing to Hahnemuhle >> Photo Rag, smooth surface paper. Do I need another paper profile? If >> so, how can I get one? Or is the profile used for the Epson paper >> close enough? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as >> they are often being updated. >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> >> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to >> unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same >> page. >> >> Please follow these basic guidelines: >> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep >> them short. >> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. >> Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the >> membership without notice. >> - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W >> printing. 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Groups Links > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 03:03:04 -0000 > From: "Bob Michaels" <bob@bobmichaels.org> > Subject: Re: dpi and stuff > > > Go read and digest www.scantips.com It'll teach you all those > necessary things you really need to know about dpi and resolution. > Even if you shoot digital and are not interested in scanning, > understanding resolution is really important. > > Bob Michaels > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Dean <dean@t...> > wrote: >> Hey! >> >> I just read on another camera forum that Epson's printers all print >> at a >> "native" resolution of 360dpi and that printing at anything else is >> pointless because the driver just re-samples the image to 360dpi. Is >> this true? >> >> I notice that the you can select select things like "superPhoto-2880" >> on >> the driver. Does this refer to how much ink it can squeeze into it's >> native 360 dots per inch? >> >> Slightly confused now. >> >> Thanks, >> Dean > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:31:39 +0800 > From: "ellery" <ellery@pacific.net.sg> > Subject: RE: dpi and stuff > > Dean, > This may not be true. I ran an experiment once with the EX the > grandfather > of most of the current generation of printer we talk about today. With > a > scan in file from neg at 2400dpi scan in from a film scanner - the > final > 8x12'er is 300dpi. Printed once at this setting and then took the > file and > ran it thru silverfast to upsample the file to 600dpi and 450dpi > printed > these out. There is a noticeable sharpness and detail visiable issue > bwt the > 300 and 450 dpi files and 600dpi. Bwt the 450 vs the 600 there is a > gain in > sharpnes and detail with the 600 but the jump is less visible. However > the > printing time is roughly double for printing at 600dpi. Conventional > wisedom > then and still now I think says that there is little to gain from > sending > files at resolution higher than 360 dpi some suggested a lower figure, > as in > all things what other determine as acceptable may not be so for your > own > use. Suggest u try. > > Using the high resolution setting ie 2880 vs a lower setting and use of > media setting ie photographic film will force the inkjet to output > less ink. > I was routinely printing at 1440 and paper setting at film for most > media I > ran thru the EX. To me the prints were better at this setting. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dean [mailto:dean@tbc.t-com.ne.jp] > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 8:50 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] dpi and stuff > > > Hey! > > I just read on another camera forum that Epson's printers all print > at a > "native" resolution of 360dpi and that printing at anything else is > pointless because the driver just re-samples the image to 360dpi. Is > this true? > > I notice that the you can select select things like > "superPhoto-2880" on > the driver. Does this refer to how much ink it can squeeze into it's > native 360 dots per inch? > > Slightly confused now. > > Thanks, > Dean > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this > same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W > printing. 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Re: [Digital BW] Digest Number 2599
2004-11-11 by Craig Kolb