Clayton > I have never really understood the > technicalities of what we're doing (the gamma-this and log-that just > makes my eyes glaze over), so my own pathfinding has been a mostly > intuitive process based on years of darkroom experience. Technical skill should not get in the way of a artistic creativity. It should, though, accompany artistic creativity and so allow its realisation. (A painter with the best visualisation ever who can't mix paint to achieve colour will never produce much - and a paint mixer without visualisation want achieve much either!) If you have it, read once again Ansel's introduction to "The Negative" for a more eloquent presentation of this point of view. Understanding of process and equipment enables creativity. The basic technical aspects of the other thread are not that hard. I am not a maths guy - in fact if you go back to the initial parts of that thread you can see my asking to be refreshed on basic maths questions in order to understand the basics. About a year ago I had asked how the LAB values that I see in the Info Pallette when passing the eyedropper over a step wedge related to the LAB readings I took when I starting to explore making my own QTR curves. I did not receive a satisfying answer and if I recall correctly someone even said that they didn't think there was meant to be a relationship. You can see that in the recent thread called "Tonal Range Recording" I originally asked how one can relate print densities with PS's 0-255 curve scale - ie how do I relate a printed step wedge (my print space) to my PS workspace. I was kindly pointed to Normen Koren's site. A walk through his site, in particular the pages on Monitor Calibration and Gamma, really got the penny to drop for me - an understanding of what is meant by gamma, linearization etc and how film, displays, photographic paper and ink on paper all have a common ground. (There is a lot on the other pages eg MTF stuff that I don't understand but it is not core to this discussion.) I don't even have a background in film so when I looked at the tonal response curve charts for film and photographic papers on the site these were totally new for me. You have years of darkroom experience which should put you way ahead of me. If nothing else read the two subsections under Monitor Calibration and Gamma entitled "Gamma and black level" and "Why Gamma?". > I have also been following this > discussion with a lot of interest, but while the theories make sense I > still couldn't quite see the practical application and have had an > uneasy sense about it. There is a very real practical application. One could modify the way a RIP such as QTR works, linearising to the workspace gamma over the range of pixel values that can be printed (rather than the full 0 to 1). > > This is exactly what I eventually arrived at (but from a non-technical > approach), hence my workflow practice of setting the printer profile > to "Same As Source" and choosing a document space profile to get best > WYSIWYG. This is quite hit or miss and if something doesn't fit they way you would like you are stuck - you are not able to explore your creativity! We are all busy people but if you love your craft or hobby I think you would be well rewarded taking the time to understand the technical aspects of its implementation - and particularly tying together your existing knowledge of the darkroom environment to its digital equivalent. They really are very very similar with identical principles but just different values. I would suggest the knowledge is already there but the connections to the new work area have not been made. It's all there for the understanding in two easy bites! :-) Steve
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Re: [Digital BW] Re:tonal range
2004-12-05 by Steve Kale
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