Digital BW, The Print

>I am wondering is someone can compare QTR to Paul Roark's methodology
>of making B and W prints from both an ease of use and technical
>standpoint (print quality as you define it). I tried installing QTR
>and QTR GUI in the next to last version on my WIN XP machine - Epson
>1270 with MIS inks and it did not seem to work for me (long story).

I used MIS VM inks in an 1160 and then in a 1280 for about two and a half
years. I also used UT2 inks in the 1280 for about six months. All were used
with the Roark curves. I was very pleased with these combinations until
about six months ago when for some reason I no longer could make a neutral
print, everything had a magenta tinge to it, kind of like a fiber base paper
in a traditional darkroom that was left in selenium toner too long. After
trying everything I could think of to fix the problem including discussions
with MIS and Paul Roark (both of whom were very accessible and very nice) I
gave up and installed QTR and QTRGui in a Windows XP computer using a 2200
printer and Epson UC inks (except for the black which is MIS Eboni). I
couldn't be happier with the results. When I want dead-on neutral I can get
it, when I want a little warmth or a little cool I can easily do that too.
So far I've used only EEM paper.

I initially had problems installing QTR in a computer with an older Windows
system but when I switched to a computer with Windows XP it was easy to
install and run with Gui. However, I haven't yet been able to successfully
install the latest version of QTR so at the moment I'm still running the
older version, which is fine with me,  the things the new version added
aren't important to me.

Stephen Billard and Roy Harrington have  been very helpful to me, especially
Stephen. They both deserve a huge "thank you."

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jarrrush" <johnr@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 2:55 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] roark vs qtr - newbie q.




I am wondering is someone can compare QTR to Paul Roark's methodology
of making B and W prints from both an ease of use and technical
standpoint (print quality as you define it). I tried installing QTR
and QTR GUI in the next to last version on my WIN XP machine - Epson
1270 with MIS inks and it did not seem to work for me (long story).

I just started using the Roark curves and it is working. I have not
spent much time using this system, but it seems like a large number
of posters to this list are using QTR and are enthusiastic about this
system (QTR). I am wondering whether I should try getting the QTR to
work on my machine. What does QTR allow you to do that the Roark
curves do not? It may help to know that I am looking at getting an
epson 2200 to do color work also. Will either system allow me to do
both color and b and w on a 2200? I do understand from reading
through the list that both are excellent systems but from a
newcomer's perspective I am having a hard time figuring out the
quality difference between the two systems. From an ease of use
perspective, Paul's methodology seems easier to set up inititally.






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