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RE: [Digital BW] Re: MIS EZ carts interchangable?

2004-12-23 by Paul Roark

Scott,

>I just installed the EZN carts in my C86 ("virgin" printer)and am 
>having banding problems with the magenta and yellow positions.

>I've run about 6 cleanings and the printer is telling me that 
>the "PK" is less than 20% full. The other inks are at least 3/4 full.

>Can this be correct?

>I've only printed one 7.125" x 7.125" photo.

>(The photo look awesome, once I get rid of the slight "banding").

I have noticed that the black ink seems to disappear quickly in those
printers.  I highly recommend the easy-refill carts and bulk ink.

Many say that you should never do more than 3 cleaning cycles in a row.  Do
a purge print between them.  Also, most "clogs" are really air.  So,
especially with hand filled carts, letting them sit in the printer over
night to allow the air bubbles to rise has been one of the typical remedies.

With new carts, I generally expect good nozzle checks rather quickly.  If a
cart were removed and later put back on, air often would get into the
outlet.  The easy-refill, poppet types really have improved this.  

With the easy-refill types, I've noticed that they can have air at the
outlet if they were filled directly into the reservoir.  I use a syringe
with a bottom-fill adapter, shortened to 7 mm, to pull that air out the
outlet before I install the cart.  It "primes" the cart in a sense.

If this was a brand new C86, maybe your problems are also an indication that
the OEM inks should have been installed first.  I just did this with a new
1280.  Some think printers should be started new with the OEM ink.  I've
done this sometimes and sometimes not.  I'm not sure it makes any
difference.

Hope some of this is relevant to your situation.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> No flushing is required when Eboni and PK are interchanged.
> 
> I don't know if the pre-loaded carts are the poppet valve type.  If 
not,
> they can take a fair number of cleaning cycles to get going. 
> 
> With the new, easy-refill, poppet-valve carts, I have interchanged 
blacks
> and find one cleaning is needed if it's been a while since the last 
change.
> 
> I'm now thinking that to avoid dried ink in the cart outlets, it 
may be a
> good idea to squirt some water at the outlet of the cart just taken 
out to
> wash the exterior ink off.  I'm using a syringe with water in it to 
do this.
> I then tape the outlet.
> 
> If you have not explored the convenience and lower ink costs of 
these new
> carts with bulk ink, you might want to check it out.  I'm easily 
and cheaply
> doing B&W & color, matte and glossy with a single C86.  I even have
> different types of PK available.  I've pulled UC PK out of a 7600 
cart for
> use with Epson Premium papers, where it has a significant dmax 
advantage.  I
> have a row of half-used carts next to the printer.  As needed I 
just squirt
> a little more ink into the top of the cart and re-set the chip. (I 
could
> use, however, a good profile for the MIS 7600 color pigs I'm using.)
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scott_now_coming [mailto:scott_now_coming@y...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 10:58 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] MIS EZ carts interchangable?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I just ordered a set of EZN carts for a C86 that I will be 
purchasing 
> shortly.
> 
> I ordered the Eboni and the MIS Photo black.
> 
> Am I correct in assuming I can interchange these two black inks 
with 
> out flushing the system?
> 
> Thanks,
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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