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[Digital BW] Re: MIS EZ carts interchangable?

2004-12-23 by scott_now_coming

Thanks Paul.

Everthing seem fine now. Must have been because it was new.


I did remove and re-install the PK cart at one point. Could that have 
caused the ink level to "mis-read?

Scott


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Scott,
> 
> >I just installed the EZN carts in my C86 ("virgin" printer)and am 
> >having banding problems with the magenta and yellow positions.
> 
> >I've run about 6 cleanings and the printer is telling me that 
> >the "PK" is less than 20% full. The other inks are at least 3/4 
full.
> 
> >Can this be correct?
> 
> >I've only printed one 7.125" x 7.125" photo.
> 
> >(The photo look awesome, once I get rid of the slight "banding").
> 
> I have noticed that the black ink seems to disappear quickly in 
those
> printers.  I highly recommend the easy-refill carts and bulk ink.
> 
> Many say that you should never do more than 3 cleaning cycles in a 
row.  Do
> a purge print between them.  Also, most "clogs" are really air.  So,
> especially with hand filled carts, letting them sit in the printer 
over
> night to allow the air bubbles to rise has been one of the typical 
remedies.
> 
> With new carts, I generally expect good nozzle checks rather 
quickly.  If a
> cart were removed and later put back on, air often would get into 
the
> outlet.  The easy-refill, poppet types really have improved this.  
> 
> With the easy-refill types, I've noticed that they can have air at 
the
> outlet if they were filled directly into the reservoir.  I use a 
syringe
> with a bottom-fill adapter, shortened to 7 mm, to pull that air out 
the
> outlet before I install the cart.  It "primes" the cart in a sense.
> 
> If this was a brand new C86, maybe your problems are also an 
indication that
> the OEM inks should have been installed first.  I just did this 
with a new
> 1280.  Some think printers should be started new with the OEM ink.  
I've
> done this sometimes and sometimes not.  I'm not sure it makes any
> difference.
> 
> Hope some of this is relevant to your situation.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > No flushing is required when Eboni and PK are interchanged.
> > 
> > I don't know if the pre-loaded carts are the poppet valve type.  
If 
> not,
> > they can take a fair number of cleaning cycles to get going. 
> > 
> > With the new, easy-refill, poppet-valve carts, I have 
interchanged 
> blacks
> > and find one cleaning is needed if it's been a while since the 
last 
> change.
> > 
> > I'm now thinking that to avoid dried ink in the cart outlets, it 
> may be a
> > good idea to squirt some water at the outlet of the cart just 
taken 
> out to
> > wash the exterior ink off.  I'm using a syringe with water in it 
to 
> do this.
> > I then tape the outlet.
> > 
> > If you have not explored the convenience and lower ink costs of 
> these new
> > carts with bulk ink, you might want to check it out.  I'm easily 
> and cheaply
> > doing B&W & color, matte and glossy with a single C86.  I even 
have
> > different types of PK available.  I've pulled UC PK out of a 7600 
> cart for
> > use with Epson Premium papers, where it has a significant dmax 
> advantage.  I
> > have a row of half-used carts next to the printer.  As needed I 
> just squirt
> > a little more ink into the top of the cart and re-set the chip. 
(I 
> could
> > use, however, a good profile for the MIS 7600 color pigs I'm 
using.)
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: scott_now_coming [mailto:scott_now_coming@y...] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 10:58 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] MIS EZ carts interchangable?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I just ordered a set of EZN carts for a C86 that I will be 
> purchasing 
> > shortly.
> > 
> > I ordered the Eboni and the MIS Photo black.
> > 
> > Am I correct in assuming I can interchange these two black inks 
> with 
> > out flushing the system?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Scott
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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