Paul Roark said: >I get tired of hearing about > the "zone system." It was mostly developed for a time before there was even > graded printing paper. As such, the negative had to be fit to the few > printing paper contrasts that were available. With all due respect to Paul and his many contributions here and elsewhere, not to mention is knowledge and ability, as others have pointed out the above statement is factually incorrect. The zone system was developed by Adams and Fred Archer in the 1940s, at a time when graded papers were plentiful. More importantly, I think it ignores the principal value of the zone system. While the zone system could be used to squeeze the contrast of the negative into the available contrast range of the paper, that wasn't (and isn't) its principal value. The real value of the zone system lies in its use as a creative tool, to permit the photographer to decide what kind of print he or she wishes to make and then to produce a negative (or a digital image) that will make it possible to produce that print as easily and as closely as possible. While we certainly have greater controls than were available in Adams' and Archer's time, I think it's still important to begin at the best possible starting point (negative or digital image) for the final print and understanding the zone system will help accomplish that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Djon" <westsidemaurice@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 8:49 AM Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Zone system (was Annie Lennox) (snipped) Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Zone system (was Annie Lennox)
2005-01-03 by B. Campbell
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