Digital BW, The Print

Can curves be created so that the Eboni black can be used with glossy 
paper (its my understanding that Eboni is associated with matte, and 
Photo is associated with glossy).

thx / roy


p.s.  I just ordered the C86 a couple of days ago, and still have to 
order the inks.  I've posted another message out there with questions 
on the supplies I ought to get for refillable cartidges.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> John,
> 
> >If I decided to buy my friend's used C84,
> 
> With new C86's costing often less than $70 with rebates, don't pay 
much for
> a used older model.  It might, in fact, be worth it to just forget 
the C84
> unless it's a gift.
> 
> > in your opinion which inkset (warm or neutral) should I get.
> 
> >I prefer close to traditional darkroom type of B&W photo and from 
> >what I saw, they are mostly glossy type, am I right?
> 
> This gets real subjective.  I think most people initially have a 
negative
> reaction to matte papers.  They don't look like the photos they're 
used to.
> So, with that in mind, I'd recommend the EZ-Neutral, Photo black, 
and Costco
> Kirkland Glossy inkjet paper as a way to start.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > The 1160 can do 13" UT-FSN with a simple curve on matte paper 
very 
> well.
> > Forget glossy with the 1160.
> > 
> > The C84 carts are much easier to deal with.
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John [mailto:firewoodtech@y...] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:14 PM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Paul Roark - need your advice
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From your previous post, I noticed you are using C86 and 7500 UT 
FS 
> > inkset for your B&W work and you have been recommending C86 with 
EZ 
> > B&W ink.
> > 
> > A friend wanted to sell his C84 and I have a old 1160, what would 
> you 
> > suggest, buy his C84 or ???
> > 
> > If C84; use warm inkset or neutral inkset?
> > If 1160; use UT FS or FSN?
> > 
> > I think the only advantage 1160 over C84 is able to print bigger 
> size 
> > but what about quality?
> > 
> > Thanks for helping us (newbie) learning digital B&W.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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