I think the B&W and color markets will merge sufficiently soon that Epson will just wait for that to happen. The best color, after all, needs a B&W core. A 4000 with 1.5 picoliter dots and one more spot for Glop can do it all -- B&W + R800 quality color on glossy or matte paper. Now that would/will be a nice machine. Even when that happens, however, the dedicated B&W inksets will be there to serve those who do not want to pay Epson's prices and for the purists. And Epson, in part by definition, can't serve those folks. Just my guess ... Paul www.PaulRoark.com ________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: joelpickford [mailto:joelpickford@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:26 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] How to tell Epson what B&W products you'ld like to see from them I have been encouraging people like me who are tired of third party monochrome inks clogging their printers to let Epson know what B&W products they would like to see Epson sell and support. In my case it would be Cone-like carbon pigment quad tone inks without the clogging problems. Awhile back, I had a very productive conversation with Dan Steinhardt, Marketing Director for Epson America. Dan's own background is in traditional B&W photography, so he understands all the reasons why Ultrachrome inks don't cut it for the serious B&W printer. He is also familiar with many third party inks and the associated clogging problems. I urge others to contact Dan and, in polite and concise language, make your B&W product desires known. Dan travels to Japan and talks regularly with the powers that be. Currently, Epson/Seiko thinks that the market for digital B&W is miniscule. I wonder what they would think if they knew that over 5000 people subscribe to a Yahoo group dedicated to that subject! When I querried Epson via their website, my email was forwarded to Dan, who replied promptly. I later called him on the cell phone number that he provided in his email. You can contact him either way: Dan_Steinhardt@... (585) 727-4480 Let Epson know that the digital B&W market is alive and growing! Joel Pickford Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [Digital BW] How to tell Epson what B&W products you'ld like to see from them
2005-01-11 by Paul Roark
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