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[Digital BW] Re: UT7/7600/Sepia cartridge query

2005-01-13 by sandersnyc

Paul, that was what I thought.  So, to conclude:  If I install the UT7 inks in my 7600, with 
UC PK in the K slot and LC in the Y slot, I should be able to print with the Epson driver 
sliders alone, with a range from neutral to the carbon-warm tone I see with the C86's UT-
EZ (warm) inkset.  [pause]  Right?   :-)

Thanks for your patience and your help.

Sanders.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> 
wrote:
> Sanders,
> 
> >... if I am not using curves ... printing only with the Epson driver ... ?
> 
> >What happens then, with the Y-position ink?
> 
> When the Epson driver is used with no curves, all the inks are always used.
> When the sepia is taken out and a same-density carbon ink put in its place,
> the print will be the same density but a bit cooler because the carbon is
> not as warm as the sepia. 
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...> 
> wrote:
> > Sanders,
> > 
> > >...If I install an LC cartridge in place of the Sepia, 
> > >am I correct to assume that the combination will still allow me 
> > >to print as warm as the C86 UT-EZ warm inkset?  
> > >I like the pure carbon warmth ...
> > 
> > Yes, you can still print carbon warm when the sepia is replaced with LC.
> > The current UT7 carbon curve uses none of the Y-position sepia ink, except
> > to turn on the black.  Now, with the LC in the Y also, you'll be able to
> > have a curves set that has 2 light carbon jets firing, thus increasing the
> > smoothness.  I made one such curve for EEM.  If it's not posted I'll send
> it
> > to you off list.
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> > <paul.roark@v...> 
> > wrote:
> > > Sanders,
> > > 
> > > >I gather the "Sepia toner" cartridge that gets installed in the 
> > > >Y position does not get called for printing the range of warm 
> > > >tones permitted by the Epson driver sliders. 
> > > 
> > > The sepia toner, as well as all the other inks, are used when the Epson
> > > driver sliders are used to make a UT7 print.  That is why you can shift
> > the
> > > tone range cooler by substituting in a second light warm gray (UT7 LC).
> 
> > > 
> > > >Certainly, I will never print warmer than the UT-EZ 
> > > >carbon/warm inkset for the C86 printers.
> > > 
> > > Then put UT7 LC in the Y position.
> > > 
> > > >If this is true, is there any reason not to leave my current 
> > > >UC Y cartridge installed in my 7600? 
> > > 
> > > You don't want the UC color inks in there.  
> > > 
> > > The UT7 with the UT7 LC in the Y position is what neutral printers
> should
> > do
> > > for the best prints.  You don't want an ink that is not regularly used.
> > The
> > > carbon UT7-LC is the most lightfast ink you can put in that spot, and it
> > > will help the sliders and curves produce the best prints possible.   If
> I
> > > did not want to do sepia and wanted to print with the Epson driver, I
> > would
> > > put the UT7 LC in the Y spot (as well as the LC spot).  (Use the Y chip
> > for
> > > the Y position.)
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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