Hi -- This my first post to the group. I have spent a fair bit of time looking through previous posts and 'files', as well as relevant QTR and UT2 website files, help files, etc. I have done B&W gelatin-silver printing for about 40 years, using Zone system for the last 20 or so. I used to use Ilfobrome, Gallerie, Seagull, and Dektol. Now I use a Windows XP Pro, a 1280 with Epson inks, profiled in PhotoCal 2.6 for color, unprofiled for G2.2 sisngle black printing, and a Spyder monitor profile on a CRT monitor. Have been almost happy with single tone Epson black, except for the nasty dither pattern in the high values. Tried the ImagePrint RIP demo, but still had metamerism,(faint magenta) although the dither is much less obtrusive. Don't want to spend the bucks for an obsolescent printer with dongle and still have metamerism. Sprang for UT2 inks, which i used up (well, there's a bunch of Eboni left over) in a day of experimenting and printing. When viewing the 21 patch file, from 90% to 50% seems pretty compressed, as do the patches on a printout. I only have a transmission densitometer, so I couldn't measure them. My UT2 prints certainly do not have the contrast in the shadows that i could achieve with single black, or with ImagePrint. Reducing the ink limit and gamma in QTRgui didn't really solve the problem, since the blacks got weaker without the shadow contrast problem being solved. I tried Epson HW Matte, Archival Matte, and Arches Hot press watercolor. I tried setting paper type (and presumably ink deposit) to Photo Paper, Matte Heavyweight, and Photo Quality Glossy Film (which was the best). I tried printing both with QTR and using Paul's curves in Photoshop. (eventually had to reinstall my 1280 driver due to software nastiness/printer hang) I played a bit with Gama setting using the Epson driver to print at 1.8 or 2.2. I tried carbon, neutral, and cool curves in photoshop. For some images Carbon looks nice, but still the low densities are pretty muddy and flat looking by my standards, using UT2 inks, when the gray mode print looks good on the screen, and has printed fine using other ink/apps. I was able to make new files that printed better, by making the print look 'too light' in G2.2 mode on the screen, before RGB/curves were applied. I tried making a PS Working Space custom file to change the gray scale image on screen, but even with 'preview' checked i can not get the image to update on the screen in real time. PS seems to be set up to have reflection density values entered numerically, although i can move the curve. Before i order any more MIS inks, i am interested to know whether people have had to change their images to adapt to UT2 inks, as one would, say, to a new paper/developer combination, or have they been able, using stock Ruark curves, to get 'good' prints, matching the G2.2 monitor image of the unmanipulated files that have printed well in the past. At this point i am tempted to wait for the new Epson printer announced in Japan, which supposedly prints tritone blacks. Basically I want a good Dmax and invisible dither in the lightest tones below paper white. I think the stock Epson black ink looks ok, although the UT2 colors are ok with me too. So far UT2 'caliberation' has been more expensive and time consuming than it would have been for wet printing with a new combination ;-) Kinda frustrating that at this point in digital printing we still don't have a conveniently achievable WYSIWYG method to print high quality B&W. I am perfectly willing to believe this is entirely due to user error and inexperience on my part, since so many others seem to be happy with their results. I'd love to hear what I am doing wrong. Ted
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UT2 probs
2005-01-15 by tgos3
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