Digital BW, The Print

Ted,

From your information, by all means FS inks on the 1280 may be the 
best way to go.  If the inks are in the position capable of using the 
Epson driver, then Paul's (who works tirelessly for us) curves can be 
used, and if in future you want to get more sophisticated, you could 
try QTR without changing inks.  If you choose to go with the original 
Piezo position inks, than your option is the R9 driver (easy, but 
expensive), or QTR (harder but cheaper), but NOT Roark curves (free).

Good luck, and have fun.  Sometimes it is better to go out and have a 
few beers with friends than sitting at home making crappy prints!  I 
have a ton of crappy prints.

Shilesh 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "tgos3" 
<egosfield@c...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Shilesh, I really appreciate your taking the time to provide such 
> useful information
> 
> --"Shilesh Jani" <shilesh.jani@s...> wrote:
> > workspace) is critical.  I am no expert on this, and I find that 
> 20% 
> > dot gain works for me.
> 
> I have used Gray 2.2, and 20% dot gain, but most of my work has 
been 
> done using Gray 2.2, since that working space seems to give the 
best 
> monitor correspondence with my 1280 output when using Epson single 
> black and either the Epson driver or PS controls.
>  
>  (ii) UT-
> > FS inks also in the regular (warm) and neutral hues. 
> 
> these are the ones I was contemplating, based on the info give at 
the 
> MIS site. 
> The URL
> http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/qn.html
> has a statement that the Cone R9 driver is needed with UT FS and UT 
> FSN inks on 6 color printers, 
> and the list of prefilled carts for UT-FS with the 1280 at 
> http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/quadcart.html
> also says they need the Cone driver,
> so I hope your statement below supercedes that
> 
> >this tonal arrangment 
> > yields excellent results on EEM paper, printing straight from PS, 
> > using the Epson driver.  You don't need the Piezo driver. 
> 
> great
> 
> > With UT-FS inks, now MIS has started filling their carts in 
> > the position Paul and I came up with those many months ago. 
> > So, if toning is not necessary for you, it would be worth going 
> > with the FS inks for the slightly warm opition.  I tried UT-FS  
> > neutral inks some time back, but it was not to my taste because I 
> beileve my 
> > perception is extremely sensitive to magenta. 
> 
> I am also very sensitive to magenta.  With a profiled monitor and 
> printer, i very quickly gave up using RGB Epson for grayscale, due 
to 
> magenta tinting, and to me the demo version of ImagePrint that i 
> downloaded had a slight magenta cast on grayscale images, at least 
in 
> the watermark areas.
> 
> > This option, either in carts or a CIS on your 1280 will 
> > give you about the smoothest prints available today 
> > But, you would need to create 
> > grayscale curves for different papers.  I have done that, and it 
is 
> > easy.
> 
> I am pretty happy with EEM as a paper -- i don't care if my prints 
> live longer than i do, and so far neither do the people who put 
them 
> on their walls.  The main issue is whether i need to use a 
reflection 
> densitometer to make really accurate curves.  Are Paul's curves in 
> the zip file 1280utfs.zip still accurate for EEM?
>  
> > Maybe this weekend I will compare the gradients on 
> > my 1280 and see how smoothness compares between the Epson driver  
> > and QTR on the 1280.  And using a RIP is NOT necessarily faster.  
> 
> agreed, QTR is far slower than the EPson or PS drivers on my system.
> 
>  >One observation:  if you already have a 2200, 
> 
> nope, just a 1280.
> 
> >you want the absolute lack of dots in the 
> > highlights. 
> yes, i do.  I have a bunch of high key images i have been unabel to 
> print digitally due to my disatisfaction with dither'
> 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > Shilesh
> Again, i really appreciate the effort you have gone to in 
explaining 
> things to me and others.
> 
> ted