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Re: [Digital BW] Re: QTR settings with Hahnemuehle Photo Rag

2005-01-29 by Steve Kale

Fred

I would strongly suggest you move to Roy's new amended workflow.  See his
recent post.  Download the "L" (Lab less a and b) workspace and use this as
your editing space.  Get the image how you like it on screen.  Set up a
proof using the QTR - Gray Matte Paper profile, Perceptual Intent, Use Black
Point Compensation and also check Simulate Ink Black.  When you print
following Roy's instructions and put the Gray Matte Paper profile in the
destination space instead of Same as Source, the soft proofed image on
screen will be very very close to output (assuming your monitor is
well-calibrated).  The big issue printing to matte paper is the reduced
dynamic range available vs display.  Roy's icc profile amendment is a very
clever way of using icc profiles to use the Perceptual colour engine to make
this compression.  Do this first before adjusting the image with an s curve
and if you do so only do so with the soft proof that I talked about active.

It goes without saying that you should be using an HPR curve for the ink set
you are using (although EEM is actually not too far off).

Steve


> From: fredila2 <fred@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:31:20 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: QTR settings with Hahnemuehle Photo Rag
> 
> 
> 
> Martin,
> 
> Thanks a whole lot.  The results are much better.  Your help is much
> appreciated.
> 
> Fred
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Martin
> Carrington" <martinc@s...> wrote:
>> 
>> Fred,
>> 
>> I'm pretty new to Inkjet Printing, but have found that you HAVE to
>> soft proof (assuming you use Photoshop) to get a good screen to
>> print match. Here's my workflow:
>> 
>> 1) Edit your image with no softproofing to the desired results
>> 2) Turn on Proofing (get the Hahnemuhule ICC profile from their
> web 
>> site and use this profile, use the White Paper and Black Point
> Comp 
>> Settings)
>> 3) Using curves, add an 'S' curve to try to recreate your desired
>> image
>> 3) If using QTR try the Matte Paper and UC-PremiereFinaArt
> settings. 
>> I have tried a blend of 50:50 between cool amd warm
>> 
>> This works pretty well. The image will still be softer than a
> glossy 
>> paper but if you mount behind glass the differences will reduce.
>> 
>> Hope this helps
>> 
>> Martin
>>  
>> 
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "fredila2"
>> <fred@f...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Before I waste all my Hahnemuehle Photo Rag (188), do you have a
>>> recommended "media type" and "curves" setting that
> produces "cool" 
>>> prints using QTR?  I've tried a number of combinations and get
>> some 
>>> very washed out results.
>>> 
>>> I've read a number of messages on the forum about HPR but
> frankly 
>>> I'm confused.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Fred

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