OK got you. Then edit as discussed. Soft proof as discussed. Prior to saving as a tiff for printing, convert to profile QTR Photo or Matte depending on media using Perceptual and Black point compensation, save as tiff - now you have a QTR Matte (or Photo) tagged file. If you are stuck on the Windoze platform and have no other choice EEM curves are very close to HPR. Most of us use EEM for proofing. The linearisation will be off but not too badly - dMax and dMin are not massively different. The bigger issue (and the one I think most users struggle with) is how to manage the big tonal compression and it is Roy's addition that gets this done well. Presumably someone, Roy?, ported the existing profiles that were in circulation for beginner Mac users over to the Windoze platform. Given HPR profiles exist for Mac users perhaps if you asked nicely that person will port them over for PC users. Cheers Steve > From: Tim Atherton <timatherton@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 11:01:24 -0700 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: QTR settings with Hahnemuehle Photo Rag > > > >> >> Tim >> >> I am not sure what you are talking about. When you either assign >> or convert >> a file to QTR Gray Lab it is tagged as this and this is what you >> want. The >> whole point is that you want to edit in QTR Gray Lab and have your files >> tagged and saved as QTR Gray Lab. You then use the PS colour engine to >> convert the file on the fly at the point of printing (a la a colour >> workflow) to either the QTR Matte Paper or QTR Photo Paper profile >> (depending on the paper you are printing to) using Perceptual Intent and >> Black Point Compensation. > > if you are using QTR PC you don't use Photoshop for printing - you can't > convert anything on the fly at the point of printing - which was my point. > > You can't edit the file in the QTR LAB Grey then assign a profile at the > point of printing. Everything has to be done when the file is saved - hence > my question (and Chris's I believe) > >> presumably at some point someone ported a bunch of profiles over. HPR and >> EEM are very similar and almost substitutable. > > Actually there are significant differences in the way HPR and EEM print > > tim > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership > without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the > membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See „Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines‰ in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE „OWNER‰ AND > „MODERATORS‰ OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, > USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE „OWNER‰ AND „MODERATORS‰ OF > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH > DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR > TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: QTR settings with Hahnemuehle Photo Rag
2005-01-29 by Steve Kale
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