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Re: outgassing

2005-02-03 by Djon

"outgassing" comes from BS, as any farm boy knows :-)

Hypothetical issues from hypothetical deposits on glass might be
weighed against the regularly reported focus issues in "film only"
scanners. 

In addition to their much superior workflow/speed and film format
versatility, flatbeds can deliver extreme film flatness using
anti-newton glass. Film-only scanners have to rely on iffy autofocus
(focus-tinkering options demonstrate inherent design weakness). 

Film-only Vs flatbed is mostly a pissing contest, in any case: Many
need to scan reflective as well as film and are constrained by cost.
Many need flatbed's superior speed and workflow because they have a
lot of film to deal with. Professionals and former pros have both 120
needs and sheet film needs, so even the Nikon 9000 won't do the
deed...and most will never submit these scans for reproduction because
significant publications use drum scans, not flatbed OR film-only.

People demanding top quality and who have unlimited space, time, and
budget will certainly want better than what Nikon or Epson offer. 
 


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Francis Ford
<francisford45@y...> wrote:
> That is a very interesting observation. Outgassing[is
> that a word] has not happened to my 4870 yet but I'll
> be watching.Francis Ford
> --- Andre <am1000@v...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Djon"
> > <westsidemaurice@y...> wrote:
> > .
> > > 
> > > At 11X14 I doubt anybody can discern Nikon V Vs
> > mere Epson 3200 (I
> > > have one, love it), much less 4870 and maybe 4990
> > in 98% of photos.
> > > Where the pre-4990s such as mine are probably
> > weaker than the new
> > > Nikons is D-Max...nobody's reported yet. On the
> > other hand, the Epsons
> > > are faster, more versatile, and have less focus
> > problems.
> > >  
> > Having used both and with the same negs, I can
> > assure you that the
> > Nikon V is way ahead of the E3200 even at 8"x10".
> > The trouble with the
> > flatbeds, beside the softness of the scans, is the
> > outgassing
> > (degassing?) of plastic components which will fog
> > the underside of the
> > glassbed therefore reducing contrast.
> > 
> > Flatbed do better with MF negatives than with 35mm.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > André Moreau
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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