Digital BW, The Print

Bernie,

I've decided to get a used 7600 instead of a 4000.  I've come to like the
larger prints and 24 inch roll paper.   With dedicated B&W the 2 black inks
of the 4000 are irrelevant.

By the way, in the 1280 I'm using a variant of what I found I like best in
my 7500 -- a variant of FSN in one C and carbon in the M.  That allows
basically monotone curves for neutral and carbon.  I have PKN in the C and
PK in the M, using the UT2 LM and 7500UT-LC for the light inks.  The idea is
to hold the ink load to a minimum and get be best dmax.  I expect to have
the same type of system in the 7600.  I'll be testing on a 2200 starting in
a couple of weeks.  With a RIP, I think I can hold the bronzing so low that
I'm not even sure I'll opt for glop.  But that in the LK with perhaps FS-Y
in Y for the smoothest possible highlights is a distinct possibility.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 




-----Original Message-----
From: Bernie Ess [mailto:albatros-@...] 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:16 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] What larger printer after 2100



Sorry, this title sounds like a stupid "Which digital camera should I
buy next, please tell me" - I also don't intend to stop using the 2100
- it just works very well with its UT7 set of inks.

However the wish for bigger prints is there, I am so far a pure
amateur, so financially this is not very rational anyway, as printer
prices beyond A3 go up very steep. 

1. Stylus 4000: My question - from A3+ (2100 maximal print size) which
is 42,9 cm large to A2 (42cm large) this is not that much a
difference, however the 4000 is much more expensive, and a very huge
machine. Actually I think the 4000 is too big and overpriced also.
Couldn't they just have built a A2 version of the 2100? Same machine,
just wider, for around 1000 USD?
2. Therefore, a good refurbished 7600 seems not that much bigger (as a
machine), however the print size is much more than the 4000. I
probably would start (on both printers) with UltraChrome inks and
would later change to UltraTones.
3. The new HP printers seem less huge machines, outbackphoto has had a
small review, not uninteresting, the question remains the long term
price of ink/ papers, there won't probably ever be a archival solution
because of different print head technology - so far no RIP supports
them, or do I overlook something? 

What are your thoughts on the 4000 being a large format printer versus
the 7600?

Thanks for your thoughts in advance.

Bernie






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