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Re: [Digital BW] VM curves and an apology to Paul

2001-11-19 by Adrian Joyner

Paul

I have now built a 98SE PC with a complete fresh installation of windows and with the latest drivers for the 1160 and which sits alongside my XP PC . Plugged in my 1160 which I had reserved for MIS VM and the prints were different (read better) than the XP  output but still not anywhere as good as Piezo or as others claim for VM.

Then for sake of completeness I swapped the CIS's from my Piezo 1160s and tried MIS on the previously Piezo printer . Suddenly everything worked perfectly and I have just printed out four excellent MIS VM prints which I will post on to Tim.

I am not sure what the problem has been as I have never really been happy with the MIS VM output. I persevered because so many others liked it and I always thought that I must be out of step somewhere. Windows XP does seem to make a difference as both printers printed VM poorly under XP, yet one printer did almost as bad under 98SE whereas the other has now done so well. I wonder if all that plugging and unplugging of the CIS did something. 

I am not going to try to isolate the cause I am just grateful to be able to print VM well. Can I offer you a public apology for doubting your VM solution. Additionally I have now networked the two machines and put all my scanners on the 98SE which means that I can now print, Photoshop or scan at the same time. I'm very happy.

Adrian Joyner
Clevedon
England
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Roark 
  To: DigitalB&WPrint 
  Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 3:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] VM curves


  Adrian,

  You wrote:

  >I've now switched VM to my other 1160 and regretfully found that this made
  >no difference to the output.

  It would be odd if you happened to have two "outliers."

  > So the only new variable that has been introduced is Windows XP ...

  I've seem one XP v. 98 comparison, and they were very close.

  >Could it be my ink?

  Be sure to give your black ink the "sniff test."  It should smell just like
  Piezo ink.  If it has almost no smell, then it's the wrong black and could
  well be the problem.

  I've been wondering about ink inconsistencies.  I use my "Color test" curve
  with the 21-step test file to check for major differences in the midtones.
  So, far, (except for the Piezo in CIS v. filled cart) I have not seen major
  differences.  I see only about the same variances that I see with my printer
  anyway.  That is, I see about + or - 1% variances, even with the black inks
  from a single source.

  Paul
  http://www.PaulRoark.com





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