Digital BW, The Print

Sepia often also contains Yellow in addition to the two Blacks - at least as used by 
QuadTone Rip I believe.  Someone will correct me if I'm wrong on this(I hope) but to use 
the term Carbon with the UltraChrome inks, would you not need to restrict yourself to 
using the two blacks exclusively?  BO printing or QuadTone Warm only would do this.  I 
agree the term "Digital" is a misnomer but using older conventions such as just Carbon 
Print or Pigment Print confuses this process with older, more traditional processes(I think 
Clayton says as much in his article).  The words Pigment and Carbon would seem to both 
be neccesary as they describe the nature of the inks.  Using the word Ink and pigment 
together almost seems redundant as the definition of Ink is "A pigmented liquid or paste 
used especially for writing or printing"   Maybe Carbon Ink Print as Clayton says or the 
redundant Pigment Ink Print, or for more redundancy, Carbon Pigment Ink Print.  Geez  Or 
what about instead of using the word Ink, we use Liquid Pigment Print(ha ha) 

Tariq

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
<deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> That's a good question. You know the uc monochromes are really no different than 
> Piezzotone and others in this reagard for most of the inksets .Pure carbon is very warm 
> and the addition of other pigments allows for the other hues you end up with. So,unless 
> you are printing sepia none of them is pure carbon, but all of them are primarily carbon.
> 
> Call em Carbon. Why not?
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Richard Smallfield 
> <r.smallfield@p...> wrote:
> > At 05:45 AM Thursday 3/3/2005, you wrote:
> > >I use Carbon Ink Print.  The reasons are listed in an article titled
> > >"What To Call Them?" on the web site below, so I won't bother relist
> > >them here.
> > 
> > What about we who use Ultra Chrome inks for BW - there are more colours involved, 
so 
> can they still be called 'carbon'?
> > 
> > thanks,
> > Richard 
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