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[Digital BW] Re: naming these things revived

2005-03-03 by tariqgibranstudio

I think you certainly do talk more about the details that you mention at least verbally or in 
a longer Artist Description of their work.  But, A gallery or a Museum does not want to 
have a long paragraph right under the title of the work and Artist Name.  Something nice, 
short and descriptive will always be required.  Hence the delima.

Tariq


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale <stevekale@b...> 
wrote:
> How about simply "photograph" and then a 1-2 sentence note as to how is was
> reproduced.  "This photograph was printed using xxxx archival pigment inks.
> Images printed using these materials have been rated....by xxx under xxx
> conditions."
> 
> I think you guys are getting too caught up on finding a single "name".  One
> or two sentences gives you the opportunity to give far more comfort to a
> buyer as to the materials used.
> 
> 
> > From: Clayton Jones <cj@c...>
> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:11:59 -0000
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: naming these things revived
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello Tariq,
> > 
> >> Sepia often also contains Yellow in addition to the two Blacks -
> >> at least as used by QuadTone Rip I believe.  Someone will correct
> >> me if I'm wrong on this(I hope) but to use the term Carbon with the
> >> UltraChrome inks, would you not need to restrict yourself to using
> >> the two blacks exclusively?  BO printing or QuadTone Warm only
> >> would do this.  
> > 
> > I would tend to favor this more strict interpretation.  I think if
> > "Carbon Ink Print" is to become widely accepted it has to mean
> > something more specific, rather than general. In my view, as a result
> > of my own testing as well as all the other info out there, a pure
> > carbon only print made with Eboni, Museum or MK is the most lightfast
> > inkjet print possible today.  Theoretically, something with toners or
> > color dots will not last as long, by varying amounts depending on the
> > mix.  
> > 
> > How many years before change is visible is another matter, and some
> > who aren't worried beyond their own lifetime may dismiss it.  But it
> > is likely that some photos made today will still exist in 100 years
> > and more.  A lot of silver stuff that old is now deteriorating and
> > needing super cold storage to survive.  So I think it's a significant
> > issue.  I use Eboni BO for most of my prints and I want my buyers to
> > know they are getting something more permanent than one containing
> > non-carbon pigments.  I think it's a good selling point
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> Maybe Carbon Ink Print as Clayton says or the redundant Pigment Ink
> >> Print, or for more redundancy, Carbon Pigment Ink Print.  Geez Or
> >> what about instead of using the word Ink, we use Liquid Pigment
> >> Print(ha ha) 
> > 
> > LOL!  It gets kind of crazy.  Will be interesting to see how it
> > unfolds.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Clayton
> > 
> > 
> > Info on black and white digital printing at
> > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

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