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Re: [Digital BW] Re: naming these things revived

2005-03-03 by Steve Kale

1-2 sentences only.  All that needs to appear below the image is "Printed on
xxx paper with archival pigment ink."


> From: tariqgibranstudio <tariqgibranstudio@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 16:03:05 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: naming these things revived
> 
> 
> 
> I think you certainly do talk more about the details that you mention at least
> verbally or in 
> a longer Artist Description of their work.  But, A gallery or a Museum does
> not want to 
> have a long paragraph right under the title of the work and Artist Name.
> Something nice, 
> short and descriptive will always be required.  Hence the delima.
> 
> Tariq
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale
> <stevekale@b...> 
> wrote:
>> How about simply "photograph" and then a 1-2 sentence note as to how is was
>> reproduced.  "This photograph was printed using xxxx archival pigment inks.
>> Images printed using these materials have been rated....by xxx under xxx
>> conditions."
>> 
>> I think you guys are getting too caught up on finding a single "name".  One
>> or two sentences gives you the opportunity to give far more comfort to a
>> buyer as to the materials used.
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Clayton Jones <cj@c...>
>>> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:11:59 -0000
>>> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: naming these things revived
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello Tariq,
>>> 
>>>> Sepia often also contains Yellow in addition to the two Blacks -
>>>> at least as used by QuadTone Rip I believe.  Someone will correct
>>>> me if I'm wrong on this(I hope) but to use the term Carbon with the
>>>> UltraChrome inks, would you not need to restrict yourself to using
>>>> the two blacks exclusively?  BO printing or QuadTone Warm only
>>>> would do this.
>>> 
>>> I would tend to favor this more strict interpretation.  I think if
>>> "Carbon Ink Print" is to become widely accepted it has to mean
>>> something more specific, rather than general. In my view, as a result
>>> of my own testing as well as all the other info out there, a pure
>>> carbon only print made with Eboni, Museum or MK is the most lightfast
>>> inkjet print possible today.  Theoretically, something with toners or
>>> color dots will not last as long, by varying amounts depending on the
>>> mix.  
>>> 
>>> How many years before change is visible is another matter, and some
>>> who aren't worried beyond their own lifetime may dismiss it.  But it
>>> is likely that some photos made today will still exist in 100 years
>>> and more.  A lot of silver stuff that old is now deteriorating and
>>> needing super cold storage to survive.  So I think it's a significant
>>> issue.  I use Eboni BO for most of my prints and I want my buyers to
>>> know they are getting something more permanent than one containing
>>> non-carbon pigments.  I think it's a good selling point
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Maybe Carbon Ink Print as Clayton says or the redundant Pigment Ink
>>>> Print, or for more redundancy, Carbon Pigment Ink Print.  Geez Or
>>>> what about instead of using the word Ink, we use Liquid Pigment
>>>> Print(ha ha) 
>>> 
>>> LOL!  It gets kind of crazy.  Will be interesting to see how it
>>> unfolds.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Clayton
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Info on black and white digital printing at
>>> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
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