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Re: [Digital BW] Re: I don't know a justification for CS in real photography

2005-03-08 by Carolyn Frayn

On 3/8/05 12:22 AM, "Anthony G. Atkielski" sent the following verbage:

> 
> Carolyn Frayn writes:
> 
>> Your statement is nonsense.
> 
> Well, now that you've told me that, I guess I can disregard all the
> years of observation upon which it is based.

I apologize for that remark as it stands above.. But not the reason behind
it.

You lumped an entire user base into two categories. I think of my computers
as tools, and I upgrade, and I produce, I don't spend all my time
tinkering.. I took exception to your absolutism.

I could not produce what I do now if I was back on my little mac when first
introduced to my graphic arts division... I could not work as I do now back
on the DOS systems I used to debug for the sister end of same company.

As for Photoshop and older computer systems... gone are the days of having a
smoke while an image did a little rotate... Applying corrections or elements
and saving every iteration in case I have to go back... Creating alpha
channels to mask, and most recently, jumping back and forth between 8 and 16
bit images to correct them.

I've had a few years of observations myself. I turned my commodore 64
monitor into a tv, it was still useful, the computer? No. I realize you are
not referring to these old methods, but your statement seemed to relate a
total negative stance on any developments.

> 
>> Never have I come across a business that is any farther
>> behind in upgrades to PS than one version.
> 
> A lot of people think they _have_ to upgrade, and so they do, and
> software vendors cheerfully cash the checks.

Sure they do, and I cheerfully give them my money if the upgrade is in
keeping with my own workflow needs... They created something, I choose to
use it, therefore I'll pay for it, just like others pay me when I create
something. Sure there are upgrades not worth the cost, I can't remember, but
one I passed by in the PS line.

If you are producing what you wish in PS5.5, and have no need to upgrade for
a reason, then cool. If you are happy with your older smaller slower
systems, then cool. I remember PS5 being a great leap from my previous
versions. But I also remember how slow it all was.

I believe this stuff advances faster than anything before it... I agree it's
sometimes either hard to keep up or not worthwhile to some. But there are no
absolutes.

> 
>> Equipment changes, software advances change things, and our work flows
>> are better off for it...
> 
> That is only occasionally true.  Upgrades are a significant cost center
> that doesn't always bring with it compensatory savings or increases in
> revenue.
>

For me personally, the last two years of upgrades has given me a very
significant time savings.. And that in turn increases revenue. On top of
that, what I produce is more satisfying, I have the control I desire.
Choice, not conspiracy.

Can't imagine saving my 2Gig files to floppies either :) Another great leap
for me, PS Large Document Format file saving.. Yahoo.

Anyway, 'nuff of this, time to get back to work, got my eye on a sight laser
10" compound mitre saw... More consumerist nonsense I'm sure. Sorry to bore
the rest of you.

Carolyn

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