Digital BW, The Print

All I can add here is that in my use of (now) perhaps 100's of sheets 
of Entrad 300 gsm and Kayenta (even the Kokpoelli,) I've had, maybe one 
or two, bits of flaking. We tested some Epson Smooth Fine Art, the 
Entrada and the Hahnemhule Photo Rag. Then, using the ColorSavvy Mouse 
in densitometr mode, the blacks were (as I remember) 1.2 on the Epson, 
1.9 or 2 on the Entrada and 2.1 on the Hahnemhule.
Jack Fulton



On Mar 8, 2005, at 3:55 PM, 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Message: 6
>    Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 18:36:03 -0000
>    From: "john dean" <deanwork2003@...>
> Subject: Re: QTR-Kayenta-Illum Alpha Smooth Not the Same
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> Thanks Paul,
>
> You're right. Who needs the extra worry and potential replacement 
> cost. I haven't tried the
> Innova media yet either. But I do use Premier Art Hotpress and it is 
> so nice not to have to
> treat it like its made of glass.
>
> I really like William Turner and German Etching for their surfaces, 
> color gamut, and dmax
> but would like to find a similar textured rag with a more forgiving 
> texture.. I would assume
> Hahnemuhle is working on that too. They better be.  I don't find Photo 
> Rag to be nearly as
> tender as the above two mentioned. I rarely have it skuff, but then I 
> hear a lot of people
> complaining.
>
> John
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
> <paul.roark@v...>
> wrote:
>> John,
>>
>>> How is the surface on the Moab Entrada paper?
>>> Is it as tender and flaky as the Hahnemuhle ...
>>
>> All the Moab papers I've tested and used flake.  It is the old 
>> Brightcube
>> Eclipse Satine coating.  They are nice papers, but today, when an 
>> increasing
>> number of companies have figured out how to make non-flaking papers
>> (PremierArt, PermaJet, Innova, maybe Sterling and others), I see 
>> little
>> reason to fight this problem.
>>
>> The degree of flaking seems to vary depending on the paper sample one 
>> gets.
>> The sample Kayenta I had was the worst I've used.
>>
>> Paul
>> www.PaulRoark.com
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