Diane I bring an image into PS as Adobe RGB. Use Split Channels to get to a B&W composite, Assign my working space - QTR Grey Lab - (because after splitting the channels the image does not have an embedded ICC profile) and then edit away in Grey Lab. Most B&W conversion techniques that I am aware of leave the file in your grey space anyway so you have left Adobe RGB. I use Photokit Sharpener Pro. Capture sharpening is done while the image is still colour. Print sharpening is done with a simple conversion to Adobe RGB (and back again) once I have finished editing and am ready to print. People might argue that this is destructive but given I use 16bit and it is the very last step I don't care. While editing I can proof to either matte or photo paper but will typically only do this at the last step and apply a "print curve" (none is really needed for photo paper). A good reason to use Lab or Roy's L as a workspace is that because it is Lab's L channel L=50 (ie the 50% step) corresponds to Kodak grey. So if you know that you want a certain part of the image to be 18% reflectance then you can work towards it easily. The bottom line is I find Lab (less the a and b) to be more intuitive. Of course, perceptual rendering won't necessarily leave image L=50 luminance at L=50 reflectance but you can print an L step wedge to see where each step gets mapped to - I think....someone who understands Perceptual rendering a lot better than me can chime in here: is it image dependent or a mapping of greyscale that can be measured by printing a Lab step wedge? BTW is there a way to read the proof image values ie the pro forma image values for a given proof? My understanding is that there is not and that PS will only display (Info palette) the image values. So all my B&W files are tagged QTR Grey Lab. I use a Mac and can have PS do the conversion on the fly to Matte or Photo Paper profiles at printing. Steve > From: Diane Fields <picnic@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:36:12 -0500 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Quadtone RIP Faded print > > > I'm new to QTR, but I will tell you my reason for not using it as my working > space--but rather have it as my 'proof'--meaning I convert to it. I prefer to > work in Adobe RGB98, process as b/w (and use a variety of ways depending upon > the image)--but I don't convert to LAB until the end (and then to gray-matte > paper, my usual paper). I can't use PKS in grayscale for one thing--and this > is normally my last process before printing. I'm watching to see how others > handle this, but that was my understanding of how to handle it--as a > 'conversion'. It works well for me. If I need to do just a bit more to the > file before printing, I can still add an adjustment layer to it, but I've > done most of my work in RGB, 16 bit (and, in fact, most of it besides the b/w > conversion, was done before the RAW conversion since I shoot mostly digital > RAW). >
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Re: [Digital BW] Quadtone RIP Faded print
2005-03-24 by Steve Kale
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