Digital BW, The Print

Bruce certainly understands all that and has more experience working
with these issues than this entire list combined. His point was that
it will never look the same, because technology, like life, is not
perfect, and it is a bit silly of us to swallow the hype hook line and
sinker.
Nonetheless he would go on to educate, in depth, how to do it "correctly".
I was just attempting to lighten things up a bit and interject some
real world.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale
<stevekale@b...> wrote:
> Yep.  There are so many steps in the process that can be wrong: bad
> settings, incorrect ambient light, bad profiles etc etc.  A lot of
variables
> and a lot of noise.  But I stress again that I think the big issue
is not
> the last 10% of the problem (issues like does your room lighting
actually
> have the same temperature as the monitor's white point? Or have you
really
> got the best monitor profile you can have?).  The first c90% is that
a print
> to something like matte paper will NEVER look like the display (even
on a
> perfectly profiled monitor) unless you have a proper/decent soft
proof up.
> The unfortunate reality is that the paper isn't as white and the
black isn't
> as black.  So the question then becomes do you think about a soft
proof or
> do you try to "tweak" the monitor.  I strongly suggest the former for
> reasons I have outlined.
> 
> 
> > From: Tyler Boley <tyler@t...>
>  
> > 
> > 
> > I was at a presentation by Bruce Fraser once, one of the leading gurus
> > in our industry for those who may not know. He probably does this all
> > the time so forgive me if you've heard the story...
> > The first words out of his mouth were-
> > 
> > how many of you here just want your prints to match your monitor?
> > 
> > Literally everyone raised their hand. The next words out of his mouth
> > were-
> > 
> > OK, the first thing you have to do is learn is how to LOWER your
> > expectations.
> > 
> > 
> > just thought I'd throw that out, seemed a little hot in here.
> > Tyler