Digital BW, The Print

Ernst,

As you noted, the Tyler's 4/8 post about the Bruce Fraser story probably
says more that most of the other posts.

I have experimented with hoods, and they doesn't make all that much
difference.  It's my clothes and the wall behind me that are too light and
the monitor picks up.  But, I don't want to work in the dark -- at least
literally.

After considering all the posts, discussions with "experts" not on the
forum, and further experiments with competing approaches, I'm going to
continue to use the Photoshop View preview/soft-proofing method that I've
used for a long time.  Having the best view -- and the old PS approach with
its custom dot gain curve does solve the problems -- is a superior solution
than having the print match a poor view on the monitor.  

But it was an interesting exercise.

I think the addition of a correction layer is probably still an important
method of profiling a new paper with, in effect, a linearization layer.
I'll probably continue to experiment with it in that roll when I have more
time.  I also think getting that linearization layer to be accessible and
adjustable visually is a worthwhile advance.  However, these layers do not
end up giving truly neutral and even tones when, for example, a correction
layer is used to linearize UltraSmooth UT7 curves to Moab paper.  I think
the linearization steps are a major advance for the rips, but they do not
end up with profiles that are adjusted correctly with respect to the tones
(hues) when using variable-tone inksets.  There is no substitute for doing
the work from what I can see.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ernst Dinkla [mailto:E.Dinkla@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:29 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Matching Monitor and Print
> 
> 
> Paul Roark wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >The range Steve measured is, I assume, from a LCD.  He gets about 6+
> stops.
> >Using the same techniques, I get about 4+ stops with my CRT.  I've been
> told
> >LCDs can be about 50% brighter than CRTs.  Oddly, part of this difference
> in
> >my case is due to the calibration procedure (Spyder2Pro), which resulted
> in
> >me setting the brightness at just above 80%.
> >
> >If I have the lights off and wear a black shirt, the CRT range approaches
> >what Steve measured.  But the reflections wipe out that black point
> >advantage when I use the computer in my normal fashion.
> >
> >As noted, the range Steve measured is more than the matte papers we use
> but
> >less than the glossy papers -- but only under ideal lighting such as used
> by
> >the densitometers/spectrophotometers.  Using the spot meter on prints in
> >typical office or home viewing conditions, I get closer to a 4+ stop
> range
> >for both matte and glossy (glass framing would reduce that).  So, my CRT
> is
> >really not that far off in terms of its display of the dynamic range of
> what
> >we see in practice.
> >
> >Paul
> >www.PaulRoark.com
> >
> >
> Some of us will have nice pro monitors with shades at the sides to
> reduce the reflections. I do have two IIyama Vision Master Pros that
> come without shades. I have made shades for them with plastic sheets and
> black paper on the inside. Probably the cheapest addition that I made to
> improve the quality of the softproof but it really helps. The SpectroCam
> + Prove It do the rest. 5000K + 2.2 gamma. For color work and QTR B&W
> now. Using the appropriate ICC profiles for monitor etc. Ambient light
> is reduced when it gets critical. I wouldn't know how to improve on that
> without making the solution less universal. I never wear white or black
> shirts but that has little to do with the work :-)
> 
> In the end the print will  be judged, an old hair dryer (helmet type) on
> a box with large holes at the sides is a good investment too. Soft
> proofing will speed up the printing process but like Bruce says do not
> expect too much of it so speeding up the real proof is a good thing too.
> 
> BTW, this must be the thread with the most text ever. Very few practical
> solutions.
> 
> Ernst
> //
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