Digital BW, The Print

Look, this really doesn't belong here, but there is a BUNCH of
mis-information here.

I shoot Nikon, BUT:

Nikon's flash hasn't been AHEAD of Canon since the D1.  The SB-800 is the
first one that worked as advertised on digital.
In the world of PJ and other "have to have the shot" their stuff was iffy.
And, Nikon kept putting out new rounds of "we haven't seen that before,"
followed by a new flash.  I have to hand it to Canon.  THEY fixed it with
software.

Whatever the initial reason for the white (and Nikon makes some also) Canon
uses the color ONLY on their professional lenses.  It's their "mark."

The D70 won WHAT sweeps? I wasn't aware either company let out their sales
figures.

All this full frame, third frame, hal frame stuff is getting old.  How many
people even used to own a 20mm?  VERY few and it was rarely used.  So, now
we have a 10 or 12 that becomes an effective 14-18 and everybody's still
crying.  The advantage on the LONG side is incredible for the photographers.
And, using the center "sweet" part of the lens is a plus.

Canon/Nikon, so what? At least you don't have to worry about Minolta and
Olympus also.

Nikon's problem is not their product; it's their attitude.

Seth


==-----Original Message-----
==Behalf Of Andy Biggs
==Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 6:37 PM
==
==
=="Nikons flash was well ahead of Canons until the past year 
==and a half when they may have finally caught up.
==Before that ask any Pro you could never trust your Canon flash"
==
==Very true. I would still make the argument that the Nikon 
==flash system is still superior.
==
=="And this was well after Canon came out with their 
==brainwashing campaign with the white lenses for the fashion 
==runway and other high profile photojournist photographers 
==giving the impression that everyone had switched to Canon."
==
==Canon has white / tan exteriors to help on reducing the 
==amount of heat inside of the lens housings. Apparently the 
==flourite inside is adversly affected by heat buildup, and the 
==light-toned nature of the exterior paint helps reflect the heat away.
==
=="The Rebel was a toy compared to Nikons D70 which solidly won 
==the sweeps last year."
==
==True, but the newest Rebel offering isn't as crippled as the 
==first one. This was more of a marketing routine than what 
==Canon or Nikon 'can' produce for x dollars. Just more about 
==offering more than the other guy. Canon came to market first 
==with their Rebel, so they blinked first and had to guess what 
==the D70 would have.
==
=="³Full Frame² digital (24x36) is blown way out of proportion 
==in it¹s usefulness. And people forget you can shoot full 
==frame digital with Nikon."
==
==Oh really? Which model, because Nikon doesn't have a full 
==frame digital camera. The Kodak accepts Nikon mount lens 
==designs, but it isn't a Nikon camera. It is a solution for 
==people who have Nikon lenses, but it isn't a Nikon camera. 
==Full frame, in my opinion, is quite useful and not blown out 
==of proportion. The problem lies in the current lenses that 
==are on the market. Ask anybody who used to use a 24mm 
==tilt/shift lens on 35mm film what he thinks about doing the 
==same with a 1.3 or 1.6 crop camera. Or a portrait 
==photographer that uses the 85mm f/1.2 or 135mm f/2 lenses. My 
==point is that at this current time there are no alternative 
==lenses to use, other than a few zooms, that can be used for 
==these types of purposes. So full frame really can be 
==important for those who make a living actually taking photographs.
==