Digital BW, The Print

Mike, I'm sorry that you are having these troubles. I have always found your
posts to be balanced to the point of over cautious. You have been free with
the results of your testing and have praised elements of the piezo system at
the same time as raising what you have felt to be legitimate concerns. i
wouldn't have made what felt like an extreme leap into FS if it hadn't been
for you being so free with your expertise.

Take care

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael J. Kravit" <mkravit@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 2:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] FS density mk2


> In my last post I made a couple of statments that were told to me by
> Gary Rogers the developer of the Piezo Software. I just received an
> email telling me that what I described is not in fact accurate.
>
> With this in mind I have decided to post the response that I received
> and my response....
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Michael,
>
> The second paragraph of your comment is false.
> It is also poorly constructed.
>
> ICQ profiles used by the PiezographyBW and
> PiezographyBW Pro24 system have always been
> generated specific to the target printer.
>
> We never averaged curves.
> I have no idea what you meant by:
> "Before they would profile each printer and then
> avaerage the curves."
>
> For example, the ICQ profile for the Epson Stylus
> COLOR 3000 using the PiezographyBW ink set and
> Somerset Velvet was generated from targets printed
> on the Epson Stylus COLOR 3000 with the
> PiezograhyBW ink set and Somerset Velvet paper.
> This applies to all supported printers/ink sets/papers.
>
> I expect you to immediately correct your erroneous statement.
> In the future, I suggest that you verify your comments concerning
> how we implement our technology before you spread misinformation
> on the web.
>
> The tone of the entire comment, specifically the first
> paragraph, is petty, and unfair to Bill. At the time he
> made those comments, we were unaware that the
> readings from our new spectrophotometer would be
> (ever so slightly) different from our older unit.
> Also, not all of the new profiles differ from the previous generation.
>
> Gary
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Gary,
>
> Enough!
>
> You were the one that told me you were now profiling for specific
> printers in lieu of just taking the average profile for the earlier
> releases of the software. You said that it would be impossible to
> have profiles for all the different printers that the software is
> supporting.
>
> Either you guys are out of touch or you are feeding us bad info.
>
> And yes, Bill told me that my density problems had nothing to do with
> the software. Then you tell me that is was the software due to the
> new profiles made on new and "more sophisticated equipment".
>
> I am really getting tired of getting  beat up by you.  We are trying
> to work with the industry and it's changing so fast. If you change
> the profiles and don't tell people, how are we to react when our
> images do not print right.
>
> I was printing 20 images that I sold to a local corporation. I could
> not get the densities to work. Then you tell me that the software is
> the problem. I wasted paper, ink and time. Don't start  lecturing me
> about retracting statements that you made.
>
> Since you want a retraction, I will post this exchange and let
> everyone else sort it out.
>
> I have been talking Piezo up! I have been a dedicated customer. But I
> will not be put in any position due to your misinformation. An
> apology is in order.
>
> Mike
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> History,
>
> Two weeks ago I received a very disturbing letter accusing me posting
> rather thoughless accusations agains the Piezo system referring to
> the Greenies and DSS. I responded with copies of every post I had
> made proving that I never said what I had been accused of. At that
> time I decided to back off and not publicly post any more info
> regarding what my experiences were with the Piezo inks. In fact, I
> even posted a message buying the IJM line that the problem was with
> the new profiles. Well guess what folks, my dampers and heads were
> full of sludge. Was this sludge caused by the Piezo inks? Who knows,
> but my feeling is that it was.
>
> I will no longer discuss anything that has to do with the Piezo
> system.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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