Jordan, While I'm just getting ready to order my inks from MIS for a C86 I just got on eBay, all of the reading I've done takes me to a couple of conclusions that I hope bear out. First, the archival quality of Eboni far exceeds that of the stock Epson ink for the c84/86 printer. And when used in combination with a quality cotton rag paper yields a print of high archival quality. Second, the Eboni ink in volume, even in the 4oz size, yields a double cost savings over the stock ink. The single cartridge price is less than the standard price for the C84/86 black ink cartridge and the cartridge is refillable. So, even if the visual results are the same, I would still plan to stick with the MIS system because of the cost system. And, if I can produce an archival cotton rag print for less than a non-archival one, then I would expect to sell more at a show when priced the same and, ideally, sell more at a higher price for less cost. Mike Brouphy Imagination Studio New Orleans, LA --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Jordan Wosnick <jwosnick@f...> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm a relative newbie to B&W inkjet printing. I had been toying > with the idea of getting into this area for a while, and then > decided to take the plunge after reading Mike Johnston's article on > the MIS EZ inks. > > I bought a second-hand Epson C86 and some Epson Enhanced Matte and > tried printing with the Epson stock inks while waiting for my EZ > cartridges to arrive. My first experiments with "toned" monochrome > prints (coloured through duotones in Photoshop) were surprisingly > good with the Epson inks and I got very nice prints pretty much > right out of the box. I then tried "black-only" (BO?) printing and > was totally blown away with the quality of these prints. I made a > whole bunch of BO prints (6x9") on the EEM paper (8.5x11") and I > have to say that they compare very favourably with darkroom prints > in terms of tonality and "feel" while exceeding the darkroom prints > in sharpness and ease of local tonal control. My workflow involves > image capture on 35mm film (sometimes colour, usually B&W) > developed at home and scanned on a Minolta Scan Dual II, with > "digital darkroom" manipulations in PS. > > When my MIS EZ inks arrived I had really high hopes. I installed > them, plugged in Paul Roark's recommended settings for the C86 on > EEM (linked on the MIS web site) and then made some prints of > images that I had previously made BO prints from. To be honest, I > was a little disappointed -- while the EZ prints are excellent, I > couldn't see any significant difference in tonality or "smoothness" > between them and the BO prints (of the same image) at normal > viewing distances. > > One thing I can say is that the Epson OEM black ink is a little > "warmer" than the tone the MIS EZ (I have the Neutral set) > provides. The differences are a little more evident when I look at > the prints through a loupe, but even then I'm surprised at how > close the EZ and BO prints are to one another. Keep in mind that > this is pretty much "right out of the box". > > Has anyone else made similar observations with this setup? Should I > really be seeing such a small difference between these types of > print? Should I try another type of image (i.e. portraits -- most > of my images are abstracts or urban scenes)? Is BO as good as it > gets, or how do I go about getting the biggest advantage out of my > EZ inks? > > Finally, does anyone know of a good Canadian source for the > higher-end inkjet papers (Hahnemuhle, etc.?) Even Epson Enhanced > Matte seems to be scarce here. > > Many thanks > > Jordan > www.photosensitive.ca > > -- > > > Jordan Wosnick > jwosnick@f...
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Re: C86 Black-only and MIS EZ carts -- questions and comments
2005-05-22 by mbrouphy
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