Dave, I think the best example that shows that the surface reflective characteristics are the main differences between matte and glossy papers with respect to dmax is that an Arches Hot Press, un-coated print jumps from about 1.5 to 2.5 with multiple coats of, for example, acrylic, applied to its surface to give it a gloss. The spectrophotometers we use for measuring dmax use nearly perfect lighting that avoids the problems of reflections. This gives the glossy papers a huge advantage. In the real world, a matte print sitting on my desk top appears to have a better dmax than a gloss print because the glossy print dmax is wiped out by reflections. That is, the nature of the lighting is what makes all the difference. If the display conditions are perfect, the glossy prints are terrific. If the lighting is bad, like a window behind the viewer, matte wins. Of course, if one puts glass over matte, you may end up with the worst of both worlds. So, my favorite is a sprayed Semimatte with no glass. But, I think both types of prints are important, and being able to print either matte or glossy is a critical part of any inkset I mix. Paul www.PaulRoark.com > -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > davelongviews > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:29 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Matte versus glossy dmax: a matter of physics? > > There has been a lot of discussion over extended periods on the group > regarding matte > and glossy dmax. Is it true that light SCATTERED at the paper surface is > what gives a matte > surface its look, and that very same scattering is what reduces dmax? And > with a glossy > paper less light is scattered, more is REFLECTED, dmax is greater, and you > have the > glossyness to deal with. In other words isn't it true that you can't have > a matte surface with > a truely large dmax? Aren't paper surface/glossiness and dmax directly > related in a way we > wish they weren't? Is it physically possible to separate the two? Any > thoughts? > > Dave > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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RE: [Digital BW] Matte versus glossy dmax: a matter of physics?
2005-05-25 by Paul Roark
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