Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
 The MIS native color is very close to most of the
> platinum prints I saw.  The Piezo native color was not seen in 
any classic
> prints.  I saw one photogravure that was close.  However, 
usually the Piezo
> print color (all test strips were on Archival Matte) looked too 
green.  

Paul,
in my holidays I had the opportunity to visit a  famous and very 
experienced master photograph/ and - printer in Switzerland.
He has digital print experiences since the late 80s. He made a 
lot of IRIS prints, which in general have got bad color shiftings 
over the years. So he switched to archival inkjet printing. He first 
used Cone inks, now he uses MIS inks too.
When he showed me his portfolios I was not able to tell Piezo 
and MIS apart. Each print could stand alone in its beauty.
After he had told me what was MIS and what was Piezo later in 
the evening I was able to distinguish them from their decent 
color tints. In the tungsten light we looked at the prints until late 
in the evening the tints were more obvious than they had been in 
daylight:
To my eyeballs and in direct comparison the MIS inks had a 
slight greenish tint, while the Piezo prints had a slight brownish 
tint. 
Because we changed some prints I can repeat the comparison 
now in the light of a cloudy German late afternoon sky (very 
diffuse light). The result is the same. All Prints look rather neutral 
if you look at them alone, but side by side the MIS prints have a 
slight greenish tint.
(BTW all prints are made on Hahnemühle German 
Etching=Orwell). 
So I´m a litle bit surprised about your results which seem to be 
just the opposite.

Let me stress that the overall impression of each print is 
excellent. Both Piezo and MIS inks seem to be wonderfull tools 
for BW fine art printing. 
I myself used to print  with Piezo since Dez. 2000 when I 
switched from Lyson Quad, but  as I do not find any MIS 
shortcomings with my eyeballs  now (though I see "dots" with my 
8x magnifying glass) - I ordered some inks some days ago to 
make my own experiences (my 1160 backup will come to work 
soon).

Greetings
Bernd