Digital BW, The Print

For glossy prints I use PremierArt Print Shield.  For matte prints I use
Lascaux Fixativ (see http://www.dickblick.com/zz217/14/ ).

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Margaret Stratton
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:46 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Matte versus glossy dmax: a matter of physics?
> 
> Paul,
> 
> What spray are you using on you prints.  With MIS ink I assume.
> 
> Thanks
> M Stratton
> 
> 
> On May 25, 2005, at 11:39 AM, Paul Roark wrote:
> 
> > Dave,
> >
> >  I think the best example that shows that the surface reflective
> >  characteristics are the main differences between matte and glossy
> > papers
> >  with respect to dmax is that an Arches Hot Press, un-coated print
> > jumps from
> >  about 1.5 to 2.5 with multiple coats of, for example, acrylic,
> > applied to
> >  its surface to give it a gloss.
> >
> >  The spectrophotometers we use for measuring dmax use nearly perfect
> > lighting
> >  that avoids the problems of reflections.  This gives the glossy
> > papers a
> >  huge advantage.
> >
> >  In the real world, a matte print sitting on my desk top appears to
> > have a
> >  better dmax than a gloss print because the glossy print dmax is wiped
> > out by
> >  reflections.  That is, the nature of the lighting is what makes all
> > the
> >  difference.  If the display conditions are perfect, the glossy prints
> > are
> >  terrific.  If the lighting is bad, like a window behind the viewer,
> > matte
> >  wins.
> >
> >  Of course, if one puts glass over matte, you may end up with the
> > worst of
> >  both worlds.  So, my favorite is a sprayed Semimatte with no glass.
> > But, I
> >  think both types of prints are important, and being able to print
> > either
> >  matte or glossy is a critical part of any inkset I mix.
> >
> >  Paul
> >  www.PaulRoark.com
> >
> >
> >  > -----Original Message-----
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> >  > davelongviews
> >  > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:29 AM
> >  > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> >  > Subject: [Digital BW] Matte versus glossy dmax: a matter of physics?
> >  >
> >  > There has been a lot of discussion over extended periods on the
> > group
> >  > regarding matte
> >  > and glossy dmax. Is it true that light SCATTERED at the paper
> > surface is
> >  > what gives a matte
> >  > surface its look, and that very same scattering is what reduces
> > dmax? And
> >  > with a glossy
> >  > paper less light is scattered, more is REFLECTED, dmax is greater,
> > and you
> >  > have the
> >  > glossyness to deal with. In other words isn't it true that you
> > can't have
> >  > a matte surface with
> >  > a truely large dmax? Aren't paper surface/glossiness and dmax
> > directly
> >  > related in a way we
> >  > wish they weren't? Is it physically possible to separate the two?
> > Any
> >  > thoughts?
> >  >
> >  > Dave
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
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