I read Ansel and Minor and Phil, and all of them left me with my head spinning and feeling deflated. I remember being frustrated, thinking: I know what all these words mean, but what the hell do they MEAN? : ) Then I discovered Fred's stuff and suddenly it all made good practical sense and I was able to make it work and I got all excited and went out and did real work with it. Always a plus. I also remember being frustrated with Phil's testing, thinking: I'm spending all my time testing. why did Minor feel it necessary to reinterpret what Ansel said?). good question. His methods were the most baroque of all. Once you understand the system and how to work it you are beyond anyone's theories - it's all irrelevent. Even if you don't understand it, but get work out of it. Arnold Gassan lived here in Tucson, and I used to correspond with him before I had any clue that he had a significant reputation. He was just another guy on the old Leben list, somebody I thought maybe I could swap info with. Unfortunately, I never got to meet him. But he once told me about someone who approached him for lessons. When he asked to see examples of her work, she showed him what he described as "lovely prints", which had some unusual quality to them, the exact nature of which I've forgotten. But he was intrigued, and asked her to show him what techniques she used. She took him in the darkroom and proceeded to not only do everything wrong under the sun, but do some really bizarre things- I don't know what- rub the prints in sand or something. Nothing about how she worked was standard or recommended. She had absolutely no idea what she was doing, in other words, in any conventional sense. And yet she had produced a series of images good enough to intrigue a knowledgeable photog and teacher, one of Jon Cone's teachers. I don't understand why people can't make room for other ideas. Yep. Lotta guys using the Taliban Zone System. James [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Air fiber based vs. current photo papers
2005-06-08 by James Irelan
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