--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: ... > I'm a real fan of shooting into the sun, so I especially relate to the > Kalalock shot. Were you able to capture this on a single film, or did you > have to use a couple of shots (as I did for my Grand Teton -- MF Tech Pan -- > shot)? First of all, thank you and every one else for your comments about the imagery and work in general, it's been very gratifying. I'm sorry this will get too long, film techniques and film vrs digital discussions can get off track here real quick. That was a 5x7 3x neg, at least a minus 4 or 5 development. The developer used a highly compensation staining agent called pyrocatechin. The partially revealed disk of the sun is defined on film, as well as full shadow detail. My girlfriend shot some color neg snapshots that evening, the range is so great the sky is completely blown and foreground shadows completely black in the dime store prints. Hard hard back light. Multiple exposures could have encompassed that range I'm sure, but the surf would not have been much fun to work with when compositing and definitely not the "actual" scene. To me this is an example of how far digital capture has to go yet. It's not even close to being able to make this image, not even close. Even if it could somehow capture the range in some pleasing manner, and capture the water at moment the shooter thinks it is arranged "just so", it would be quite lacking in tactile detail compared to a large format neg. I shoot some digital, I clearly embrace digital printing, but until we can really do everything we need to do, we can't let some of these tools completely slip away. This is an old image, but has appeal, so I have had to discuss it too many times over the years. I wouldn't mind if it moved aside for recent work. But it's interesting in this way- Photography tools evolved for decades and decades to the point where we could capture pretty much anything we wanted, and this makes the art of photography more and more compelling. If it's there, and sparks some idea in a brain, a skilled imager can make it happen for us to consider. Do we really want to so rapidly abandon these hard won tools, so the manufacturers like Agfa drop as fast as we are witnessing, and thereby suddenly limit the actual pictures we can make? I don't want to go backwards, I want to be able to make any image I want. And what really pisses me off, is that those choices have been taken out of my hands. This evolution is happening in spite of us users, not for us, argh!!!! I could not have made this image with the technology touted today. Tyler
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[Digital BW] Re: Will we be obsolete? More...
2005-06-29 by Tyler Boley
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