Ukko Heikkinen wrote: > Do you mean that MIS changes the cartridge supplier every so often? From what I can tell they are constantly looking for better cart suppliers. And they do testing of carts and send samples to beta testers like me when they think they've found better ones. The clear, easy-refill carts are the best I've used so far, including the spongeless ones for the 1280/1290. Frankly, I was going to abandon the 1280 before MIS found the clear carts. I think those carts give it a bit of a longer lease on life, although I have now abandoned it anyway, in part because have too many printers and, in part, because I think printers made for pigments are more reliable. Even if it is just the built-in cleaning routines, the bottom line is that I think there is less trouble with pigment printers than those made for dyes. However, the 1280/1290 has given many users many years of good service. So, I don't want this read as my saying that printer is not a good one ... but pigment printers are better. I push the C86 for entry level in part due to this. I think it is the most likely by far to give new users a positive experience -- it's made for pigments and doesn't need any curves or extra software. Once B&W photographers see what can be done, they'll be more patient with the curves and rips that we most often use with the higher end (pigment) printers. It's terribly frustrating when these systems don't work, whether from the occasionally foam problem or curves that aren't right for the particular printer. Also, there is a range of printer quality out there. Some are enough off the mark, for example, that the curves don't work. Either an "EZ" slider approach or rip with semi-automatic linearization is the cure for that. I'm also suspicious, however, that the printers with the individual carts might eliminate any slight input/output spacing variation that could cause a less than perfect seal around the pegs of printers that use multi-chamber carts. As such, for a variety of reasons, I'm not sure I want to deal any more with printers that don't use individual carts, although they also can sometimes have a fit problem with some cart batches. At any rate, my 2200 has been extremely reliable, and the C86 is the printer I use the most. My limited experience with large format printers -- 7500 and 7600 -- is that they are better made than the desktop units and more reliable. At the other end, if one gets a C86 that is not well made or breaks, it's cheap enough to just though away and start over. Paul www.PaulRoark.com ______________________________ > > Paul Roark wrote: > > "But, most of us seem to get good results from the carts MIS finds. > Searching for the > best carts is clearly a significant job that MIS does, indirectly for us." > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND > MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
Message
RE: [Digital BW] Re: The Case of the Clogged Nozzles
2005-07-01 by Paul Roark
Attachments
- No local attachments were found for this message.