If I understand what your saying, then for quick shooting, would it be advantageous to auto bracket shots when shooting digital then? DSLR's are rather automated beasts. I don't do this currently, but maybe I should. Thoughts? Scott Truman Prevatt wrote: > The difference between film and digital is (excause the abuse of the > term) how the grain shows up. In film the grain tends to show up at > higher light leves - zones 6 up. In digital the "grain" which is really > noise shows up at the lower levels - zones 3 down. The difference comes > from different physics producing the effects of grain. In the digital it > is the preamp noise that would be there - even assuming the sensor was > noise free. The signal levels are simply closer to the noise floor and > as such the values are impacted more my the noise than the high level > signals resulting from bright objects. In other words in the shadows the > signal to noise ratio is low while in the midleves up it is high. > > As long as you have a pre amp and ADC in the circuit there is no way to > eliminate this fully. As Paul noted placement of values is extremely > important because of this and I suspect for critical work no mater how > good they are the in camera meters are not sufficient and a good old > fashion spot meter would prove very helpful. When I am doing critical > work - be it with my 4x5 field camera or my digital - I use my spot meter. > > It is very interesting to think that Adams developed the Zone System in > order to get proper placement of values on film so as to control the > highlights (minimize blocking and grain). With a digitial camera it is > just as useful except in this case it is to minimimize the impact of > noise on the shadows. > > Truman > > Paul Roark wrote: > > >>... are you saying that if you had been using film, you could > >>have gotten the same or better results with a single exposure? and > >>less manipulation? > >> > >> > > > >I'm not sure about the single exposure. I didn't have my spot meter > with me > >for the digital shot -- a mistake I won't make in the future. Given the > >"slide-like" 7 stop dynamic range, I'm going back to carrying my > Pentax spot > >meter. > > > >Medium format, Tech Pan film would probably have ended up making a better > >image with less manipulation, however. Also, I would have been able to > >print larger than 16x20 with MF TP. > > > >MF Tmax 100 would probably not have made as good an image, however. The > >grain in the foggy parts of the image would have shown. 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Re: [Digital BW] Digital vs scan for BW Print
2005-07-07 by Scott McLoughlin
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