Ken Carney said: >(snip) I would appreciate it much if >anyone on the list could comment on >whether that would be a meaningful >upgrade from my old Heidelberg, or >point me to a resource. I used the Heidelberg/Linoscan 1400 for several years. I believe it was the successor to your Saphir. I recently replaced the 1400 with the Epson 4990. As I'm sure you know, manufacturers' specs for ppi and dynamic range are notoriously misleading and the 4990 is no exception. The scanner clearly does scan at 4800 ppi in the sense that the file is the right size at that ppi. But according to tests of various scanners including the Epson 4870 that were published in the current issue of "View Camera" magazine, max ppi that the 4870 can actually resolve is 2050 (and the range is 2.55). The 4870 and 4990 are basically identical machines except for the 4990's ability to scan 8x10 film so I assume these numbers would be the same for it. I believe even Heidelberg's claimed max ppi of your Saphir is 1200 so in theory an actual resolvable 2050 ppi would be an upgrade on that spec. I don't recall what the claimed range is so I don't know if 2.55 would be an improvement there or not (and who knows whether Heidelberg's published specs are any more accurate than Epson's). From all I've read it appears that the differences between inexpensive scanners like the 4990 and more expensive scanners show up primarily with very large prints. I've been happy with the 4990 scanning 4x5 and an ocasional 8x10 negative and printing at about 11x17 inches. OTOH, I don't think the results from the 4990 are noticeably better than the results I got from the Linoscan (I switched only because I couldn't/didn't want to continue using a SCSI connection with my new computer). I've suspected that apart from range and ppi, other things important to scanner performance might be better with the Linoscan (and Saphir) such as the optical alignment and the accuracy of the motor. The Linoscan 1400 is about five times the size and weight of the 4990 and one would hope there's some benefit from that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Carney" <kcarney1@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Scanner info Hope this isn't too far OT. Though most of my stuff is digital capture now, I have a large backlog of 120, 4x5 and 8x10 b&w negs to scan. So far I have been using a Heidelberg (Linotype-Hell) Saphir Ultra 2 SCSI I bought in 1997 or 1998 (about 200 years ago in human years). I see the Epson 4990 Pro also takes up to 8x10 negs, and purports to have a range of 4.0 and 4800 ppi optical. I would appreciate it much if anyone on the list could comment on whether that would be a meaningful upgrade from my old Heidelberg, or point me to a resource. If it is really true that it has 4800 ppi optical, that would be a pretty large scan from even 120 film. (I can't afford an Imacon). Thx! Regards, Ken Carney www.kencarney.com Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Digital BW] Scanner info
2005-07-21 by Brian Ellis
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