Digital BW, The Print

You know, it is kind of interesting to me that, after
much discussion to the contrary, it turns out that
Epson EEM actually has great archival properties. (See
the Wilhelm Research Website for details).

If the data at that website is correct (and why not to
believe since this seems to be the final voice on such
matters) then all of the other wonderful qualities of
EEM are truly available for us to sell our fine art
prints, eg brightness, luminance etc. And finally,
given the price of EEM, this has to be one of the
truly great papers out there.

I have spent inordinate time (as have most of you
judging from the threads in this forum) trying to find
a paper that meets EEM's characteristics and with
superior archival qualities. Are we overlooking the
obvious.........that EEM is our saviour all along?

What am I missing?

woody spedden

--- wwodets <odets@...> wrote:


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Scott-

I'll try some--next time my MK gets low (which will
probably be in 
about five minutes).  Seriously, I've spent $600 or so
on ink sorting 
out this printer.  Fortunately or unfortunately, I
have an "art 
photo" store right across the street from my house and
they handle 
all the Epson materials (plus Hannemuhle, Legion,
etc.).  I don't 
know that my observations will be anything but a
personal take 
though.  

While I agree with your feelings on the RC issue,
people are still 
influenced by the "hand" of the paper when holding an
unframed 
print.  I don't know how important that is or should
be.  Some very 
experienced BW photo collectors from Hawaii recently
looked at some 
of my prints and couldn't stop talking about the
beauty of the prints 
and the wonderful feel of the paper.  These were all
2400 prints on 
Velvet Fine Art and they bought several.  They were
much less taken 
with the gelatin prints which, by comparison, feel
skimpy.  The VFA 
is lush.  Like the RC issue, "100% cotton rag" is a
problem, because 
I think there are now a lot of cellulose papers that
are probably 
more stable and provide a better printing surface for
the inks.  
Feelings die hard, even among those who are very
experienced and 
knowledgable.

I'll make a post with impressions when I've had time
to try the 
Premium Semigloss.

Walt  

> 
> Thanks again Walt. I did NOT see any differences
with different 
> lighting schemes and levels. I (and many of us here)
would be very 
> interested in your thoughts if you tried some Epson
Premium 
> Semigloss and do another analysis. I find its
surface to have a 
very 
> nice sheen (like ADFBG) with just the slightest of
sparkle (not 
> nearly as bad as the Luster)and only seen at very
high angle 
viewing.
> 
> I am beginning to think that our natural aversion to
the idea of an 
> RC type paper is a little silly. As you note, in the
darkroom RC 
was 
> really not a very high quality product, but these
RC-ish papers for 
> inkjet printing seem fine to me, if I can just throw
away an old 
> prejudice and wow, do I get some beautiful deep
blacks.
> 
> Interested in trying some EPSG for us????
> 
> Scott




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