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Re: [Digital BW] Re: For Clayton, Paul, Gary and others . . . on the 2400

2005-08-02 by Elwood Spedden

Clayton

Thanks so much for taking the time to educate me.

One of the reasons for me posting my message was to
get reaction from users much more experienced than I.
It worked! as evidenced by your kind reply.

Again my many thanks
woody

--- Clayton Jones <cj@...> wrote:


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Hello woody,

>You know, it is kind of interesting to me that, after
>much discussion to the contrary, it turns out that
>Epson EEM actually has great archival properties.
(See
>the Wilhelm Research Website for details).
> 
>If the data at that website is correct (and why not
to
>believe since this seems to be the final voice on
such
>matters) then all of the other wonderful qualities of
>EEM are truly available for us to sell our fine art
>prints, eg brightness, luminance etc. And finally,
>given the price of EEM, this has to be one of the
>truly great papers out there.

If you tack a piece on your wall and watch it go
yellow over a few
weeks you may change your opinion.  I'm not sure what
Mr. Wilhelm is
measuring, but ask any experienced user and you'll
hear about it
yellowing.  Maybe he's just measuring whether the ink
fades or
something.  It used to be called EAM (Epson Archival
Matte) and Epson
changed the name and removed the "Archival" part after
they got fussed
at about it.  IMO it would be a big big big mistake to
sell anyone a
print on this paper and call it archival.  Please be
careful and do
the homework.


>I have spent inordinate time (as have most of you
>judging from the threads in this forum) trying to
find
>a paper that meets EEM's characteristics and with
>superior archival qualities. Are we overlooking the
>obvious.........that EEM is our saviour all along?
>What am I missing?

Photo Rag, Dourian Art and Kayenta all have very
similar contrast
curves to EEM.  I often print on them with no
adjustment after working
up a proof on EEM.  PR and Dourien (nearly identical)
are close to
EEM's color, medium warm.  Kayenta is cold tone. 
Innova's Fiba is
also similar in tone and contrast to EEM, but it
prints darker so some
lightening will be needed to match the EEM proof.  But
the end result
is excellent.  There are really a LOT of good papers
out there.

I have just uploaded a revised Great Paper Chase
article (been working
on it for several weeks).  It now lists 24 papers with
their color,
ink tone and dmax attributes, plus other observations.
 This might be
helpful in finding something new to try.

Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm





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