Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "kcooper666" 
<yahoogroups@n...> wrote:

> when he pointed out several people who are offering remote 
profiling services based 
> upon nothing more than using the Eye One Photo set up - one person 
was even charging 
> for the 45 patch 'easyRGB' target profiles that you can make with 
Eye One Design... it does 
> to check with anyone offering a remote profiling service to see 
just what equipment and 
> software they are using. 
> 


Yes I cringed when someone on a different forum pointed to that place 
with the sleazyRGB target. I can tell you from the point of view of 
an i1 Design owner, that target just DOESN'T WORK! The CMYK version 
is even worse (if you can imagine that). You can read about my 
thoughts on the i1 Design over at DPreview in the printers/printing 
forum be searching for the keywords "i1 design". I also cringed when 
someone pointed to a place using the i1 Match software and the 288 
patch target...

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It really goes to show that there are some people that have no 
integrity!!!
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Are people actually paying for this? If so I need to get my self 
going and selling this type of service, using much better 
software...  

I will say that my main choice for a lot of paper trials is Printopen 
4.0.5.2 with the tiny little 240 patch set (CMYK), but for anything 
of quality, a larger number of patches must be used! The quality and 
features are very good, even better now that Xrite has the Colorport 
software that can export a measurement file that P.O. will import. 
Now it no longer takes me more than 3 hours to measure the larger 
targets that P.O. can use. I get fantastic results with the CMYK 
profiles compared to Monaco Profiler 4.5, but haven't done much work 
with the RGB side of things. My limited exposure to the i1 Match 
software leaves me thinking it is much too limited to make anything 
really good, but others have a differing opinion. You'll find that 
the better profile services are not using the Match software but the 
more expensive Profile Maker Pro software, or other comparably 
expensive software from other manufacturers.

****** Keith if you are looking for another product to review, try 
the new Prinect Profile Toolbox from Heidelberg. I've read through 
the users guide, and there are some improvements over the Printopen 4 
that I'm using, now if I could only come up with the nearly 
$2000.00USD to upgrade! It's a really hard decision right now, the 
improvemnts may be more than I may be able to wait for. The changes 
are in the way you can handle OBA's, the profile graphing, I'm sure 
the algorythms for calculating the profile have been tweaked, and it 
now works with the i1 spectro in scanning mode (even though Xrite 
fixed that for me, thanks for the link Ernst)!

****** Glenn, if you would like to try a freebie with my Heidelberg 
software and i1 spectro, please email me off list. It's a freebie 
because I don't have a lot of experience with the RGB half of that 
software, so it might be good, it might not. Only you can decide if 
the risk is worth the paper, ink and postage. The RGB target is two 
pages with 840 patches (total). I'm in the USA, just incase you 
aren't. I might also open this up to a couple of other people too.