Digital BW, The Print

Ok I'll give you some numbers that I use on my 9600. I wouldn't expect
these to be exactly what you will run into on a 2200 and some people
have stated that here but, they should get you into the ball park. I
have about 5 or 6 hues that I work with regularly. These are for matt
black inks NOT photo black on glossy media. I don't do glossy with
monochrome.

For a very nice sepia I use -  40 sepia/60 warm (strong but not too
red and fake looking)
for an identical hue equiv to Piezz tone carbon sepia - 90W/10 sepia
for neutral I use 65 cool/ 35 warm
or slightly cooler neutral 70 cool/ 30 warm
cool netural - 80 cool 20 warm 
warm neutral - 50 warm / 50 cool (this one is very nice for portraits
and I have one client who won't use anything else)

For me, everyone of these is nice and I use them for different
applications. The sepia values I have here work well on all the papers
but especially well with H.Willim Turner or Innova Soft Texture becaue
the highlights will go warmer with those excellent papers. 

As for the selenium tone curves, I haven't worked with them much but
do know a little goes a long way so I would only add about a 10 of
that to one of the other tones tones to start unless you like purple.

All of these figures are for 9600/MK/Innova Smooth Cotton and
Hahnemuhhle Photo Rag/ using the QTR Photo Rag curves. Less cool
papers can produce slightly less cool results with these curves but close.

Oh, don't thank me, thank Roy Harrington. He's da man.

John 




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steve"
<snphoto_1@y...> wrote:
> Thanks John!  Took your advice, ran a test, and got a very nice Sepia,
> with no changes in settings. Just an initial test. Any thoughts on how
> to get a neutral print without any tone?
> Thanks again.
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean"
> <deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> > You will never abolish metamerism and color cross over with Epson
> > color inks in the 1280 you would need one of the fine monochrome
> > inksets from MIS or Cone for that. 
> > 
> > For the 2200 you should download, pay the $50.00 for, and use QTR rip.
> > That solution will surprise the hell out of you as long as you are
> > printing on matte or fine art papers. There are other rips as well
> > that you can read about by searching these archives.  But QTR is in my
> > opinion the biggest bang for the buck and totally eliminates
> > metamerism and allows for tones prints as well.
> > http://harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steve"
> > <snphoto_1@y...> wrote:
> > > New to the group. What seems to be the best solution to eliminating
> > > metamerism and bronzing/color tints to b&w prints on these
printers? 
> > > Is converting the 1280 to a dedicated b&w printer the way to go?  Or
> > > is there a good profile for truly neutral b&w prints on the
2200?  I'm
> > > getting spectacular results with color on the 2200, and am hoping to
> > > get similar results with b&w. Or, is the best answer to shoot
film and
> > > go analog until this problem is truly solved in the digital/inkjet
> > arena?
> > > Thanks!  Steve  www.stevenicholsimaging.com 
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