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Prints to Dye for...or Pigments are Better...

2001-12-15 by Steadman Uhlich

Mark, 

I truly sympathize with you...and so often think like you too (or so it seems...did you notice that Joey Ramone just got inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame...hard to believe a punker could do that in a mainstream museum..)...anyway...back to the thread...

I read your reasoning down below.  I don't buy it....Or,  I would not buy it...

Your "mild disclaimer"  is not enough to make a difference in your reputation.  

What if you sell a bunch of lower priced (how low is low?) prints of the very best images....and then the prints go "fugitive" in a few months or a year or two...how satisfied will those buyers be?  

Not very I can tell you.  

I spent some money on a BW art print (silver) and it went bad after two years and I am pissed...the print is ruined and nothing worth displaying now.  

So...given that dyes are known to have fugitive properties ( do you really trust the 200 year claims of Epson?) ....then I think you are simply selling your images cheap, and cheapening your reputation as a printer too.  

In short, I think it will come back to haunt you.  

Generally, people buy art for display on their home/office walls.  Most people keep it there for years.  Most will spend $100 or more to have a big print framed.  Most will not want to waste money on fading prints. 

Of course, those same people may be buying some "limited edition prints from...the painter of light..."  

Just an opinion...

Steadman
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mtucker508 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Neutral RGB Grayscale


  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Steadman Uhlich" 
  <steadmanuhlich@k...> wrote:
  > And what good is an expensive print, purchased from a 
  professional, that changes dramatically with time..due to the use 
  of fugitive dye based inks? 

  Steadman,

  I totally totally hear you. But what to do, my friend? You're in a 
  pinch either way you go.

  I love the feeling that I have right now with these pigments, that 
  when a print pops out of the 7000, I know (think) it's gonna be 
  here til the cows come home.

  But then, carry that same stable print to the window, and watch it 
  turn green.

  So then, you reload the dyes, and the print looks great in any 
  room, but then you start sweating when you're packaging up the 
  print to ship it out.

  But today, I'm leaning toward this scenario: sell my prints cheap, 
  print them with 1270 dyes, and then put some kind of mild 
  disclaimer in there with them, and then justify it that way. In my 
  distorted view of life, if somebody's paying much less than 
  "normal", whatever normal is, then if it fades somewhat in 25 
  years, then I won't feel "that" bad about it, whatever "that bad" is.

  I'd rather feel bad about the print in 25 years, than today, when I 
  carry it to the window.

  -Mark Tucker
  Between rock and hard place


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