Digital BW, The Print

Children, Children,

Must we start a flame thread over something as silly as this?
Everyone please take ten deep breaths and let it go.  Time to go back
to profitable pursuits.


Regards,
Clayton

Have to disagree with you Clayton . . . the list is "digital b/w the print",
the implication being the holier than thou space left by AA and others.

Yes if it degenerates into name calling then it is of little use . . . but I
would suggest that some people, especially those who don't even remember/or
know what film is would hardly have had any exposure to "photographers" or
is it "artists" who value the work they do. You yourself make and sell
beautiful prints . . . do you advertise yourself as a "photographer"? or
just a "snapshooter" (that is stretching it a bit . . . but the implication
was there in the original thought).

Digital b/w doesn't have to be ONLY about how many grams of ink you can
squeeze into a re-usable cartridge, if so then the list ought to re-name
itself as popular (and messy) mechanics . . . period.

I think there should be some  . . . oooh, I hate saying this, but "cultural"
content on the odd occasion. The comment that started this whole she-bang
hi-lighted a total lack of understanding of the predecessors who forged the
space we are in now. There are thousands of photographers, some still with
us, many dead, who are/were/and always will be . . . artists.

I am a commercial shooter . . . have been for virtually all my life, and
don't consider myself an "artist", though frequently in the problem solving
I have to do, artistry does enter into it. I enjoy and in some cases revere
the artistry that I have seen in the past, and present from some of my
fellow photographers

Perhaps, the original remark was aimed at (and rightly so) the frequent
"artist's statement" . . . if ever there was a justification for an air
sickness bag, that has got to be it . . .

"Art" like politics, and religion, is usually not a simple subject to
discuss, but I do think the justification for the "trashing" of most of our
finest photographers should be open to a little discussion. Some of the geek
heads might actually look up some of the names and learn a little about
photography . . . that wouldn't hurt a bit.

all the best
Paul Aparycki