Here's an update on the Black ink swap post of a week or so ago. Original post inclded below for easy reference ... I've now done the following: 1. Swapped out the 4 one third full Light Inks for 4 full new Light Ink carts. 2. Started the `replace black' routine. 3. The printer then told me the C, M & Y carts didn't have enough ink in them so to swap them (exactly as per the 4 Light inks) they actually had about the same as the Light inks i.e. about 1/3 full. So I swapped those 3 for 3 new carts. 4. I then proceeded to complete the black cart swap exactly as per the documented process. During this swap I used a total of 91.3 ml of ink which is very close to what I used at a previous swap (88.3ml) but when the carts were full enough for the swap. So what have I learnt? 1. To swap black inks (in this case replacing MK with PK) ALL of the other carts must be at least 1/3 full. 2. If they're not that full then you need to replace the `less then 1/3 full' carts before you can swap the black inks. I have been informed (thanks to someone on the list) that I can still use the `less then 1/3 full' carts by swapping them back in so apparently no actual additional ink wastage. So what do I think? 1. Expletive deleted. 2. At least there's no additional ink wastage above a swap where you don't need to replace part full carts. Steve Gledhill http://www.VirtuallyGrey.co.uk/ --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Gledhill" <stephengledhill@y...> wrote: > Information about changing black inks in the Epson 4800. > > Posted for information to both the DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint and > Epson4000 Yahoo Groups. [The Epson4000 Group also covers the 4800] > > Three or four weeks ago I successfully and easily changed the black in > my 4800 from PK to MK. In the process I used 88.3ml of ink. Of > course I wasn't happy that the process wastes that amount of ink but > I knew before I bought the printer that was the way it worked, so > > I now need to replace the MK with the PK so I started the process > again. Much to my consternation the printer reports that there's not > enough ink in the 4 right-hand cartridges (LK, LC, LM, LLK) for the > change to take place. But according to the ink monitor there's at > least 25ml to 30ml in each of those four 110ml cartridges. By the > way, there's a similar quantity of ink in the C, M and Y carts but it > doesn't indicate a problem with them. The MK is much fuller. > > I called Epson support in the UK. They told me that there is a > certain minimum that must be present in the carts for the swap of the > Black cart to take place - although they couldn't actually say how > much that is. The only advice they could offer was that in order to > change the Black cart, I'd need to purchase four more carts (LK, LC, > LM, LLK), swap the part full carts out for the new full ones, then go > through the procedure to change the Black cart. > > At that point I'd then be left with the ink configuration I wanted, > but also left with four carts each at least one quarter full. I was > told that I could then swap these for the four new carts so that I > could use their remaining ink. I only hope that I don't find that > there's a minimum ink level in a cartridge below which I can't swap it > back in!? And if there is I wonder if it's the level that the four > have already reached. If that is the case then the Black ink swapping > process gets even more seriously costly. > > I guess I'm not surprised that there would be a minimum ink level > below which this process can't take place say a few millilitres. > But for it to be at least 25mls in each cart is just plain bad printer > design. Or is it bad programming and in fact it doesn't really need > this much at all? Perhaps another way to force us to buy more ink? > > I'm now off to buy four more carts, much sooner than I'd planned, so > that I can print with PK. > > What a rubbish system design. Shame, because I love the print quality > with both PK and MK. > > I'll report back on how it goes and on exactly how much ink I consume > to swap the blacks. > > Steve Gledhill > http://www.VirtuallyGrey.co.uk/
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Re: 4800 - Swapping the Black cartridges
2005-08-20 by Steve Gledhill
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