Hi Tom, Granted, the film industry will change, but as far as it disappearing, I think it's worth noting that as photography has developed over the last two centuries, and taken over the role of "commercial" painting, the paint industry (fine art applications) has continued to exist regardless of economic reality. The amount of paint produced has indeed been drastically reduced over time. But rather than ceasing to exist, paint manufacturers have continued doing business by refining their products, raising their prices and selling these specialty paints to artists. For instance, Old Holland Oil paint, which has been producing paint since 1664 offers some paint tubes that run $40-$50 for a 40ml tube. While that's on the extreme end of things, the point is that they have continued to do business for nearly three and a half centuries, regardless of the technological advances in the realm of image creation. And, when some paint companies have ceased to exist, others have shown up to take their place. An example of this is Gamblin Oil paints. They are a company that has only been in existence for about 25 years. Yet, they produce some of the most sought after, and expensive oil paint produced in North America. While it is true that digital photography has replaced film to a large extent in the consumer market, obviously there are still proponents of the traditional processes. And, to use the comparison with painting, while photographs are capable of rendering the most refined of details, painters have continued to produce everything from portraits to landscapes as they prefer the aesthetic of brushwork on a canvas and continue to support their traditional processes. Similarly, just because the digital process allows control of individual pixels doesn't mean that there won't be people still using cold light enlargers, dodging and burning in darkrooms and printing a single image for hours on end to achieve the perfect chemically processed, expressive print 200 years from now. All that is required for that to occur is a handful of companies continuing to offer their "authentic, traditional materials and equipment," and for a few dedicated artists to purchase those products. To me the most intriguing aspect of these technological advances is how the old processes can be integrated into the new ones and vice versa, for instance, the use of film to capture the image but then using a lightjet printer to produce a 4' x 6' print from 35mm film, or taking a digital capture, printing a digital negative and producing a chemically processed print, or doing whatever it is that all of us are doing. I think the point is that it all comes down to the subject, the artist's eye, his/her aesthetic and ability to achieve the end result he or she prefers. And, that the analog world (to quote Edward) vs. the digital, is essentially a mute point as far as whether or not they'll both continue to exist. In the realm of music, digital equipment has clearly taken over but as Edward mentioned, analog equipment can still be found, even brand new tube amplifiers that go for rather obscene prices. While this forum is about the digital B&W print, that doesn't change the fact that many of the members regularly utilize film to capture their images and others have produced their prints via digital negatives on analog papers. IMHO, viva la difference. Variety brings with it, options, and options allow for unique modes of expression. And, I think that the richness of this variety continues to drive all of us to greater and greater levels of artistic mastery in the realm of B&W printing. Isn't that what this forum is really about? Best regards, Eric www.ericashworth.net > ... It would > be nice to think both would exist side by side, but economic reality > will eventually bring a halt to the world of film. Probably the only > thing keeping it alive today is the hope that the millions of film > cameras (mostly in closets) will get pulled out for pictures of the > cousin's wedding or christening...but eventually this will stop. Who > knows exactly what will end it... remember a couple of years ago, > there was a product written about (don't know if it actually was ever > produced) that was a digital "insert" to the film bay of conventional > cameras...kind of like the cassette insert for iPods <g>. Such a > product could end film manufacture overnight if it really worked > well. I haven't seen one, but doesn't Leica now have a digital back > for it's rangefinder and SLR cameras? > > I'm not anti-film but just don't see why anyone would continue to > work with it unless you were a John Sexton who is at the top of the > food chain in terms of quality...for the rest of us, still on the > learning and improvement curve, why wouldn't we devote our energies > to the technology and medium that will grow with our skills??? > > And in the final analysis, isn't that what this forum is all about? > > cheers, > > Tom O'Connell [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: John Sexton's comment on B&W print
2005-08-21 by Eric Ashworth
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