Digital BW, The Print

Agree. I think Ilford Smooth Pearl and Gloss print very nicely on the 
R2400.

I recently tried matte papers again with mK ink. However I'm not sure 
this printer produces a print any better than my 2100 on matte. I 
think that RC papers on the R2400 are the real winners. 

Peter.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Gledhill" 
<stephengledhill@y...> wrote:
> Steve,
> I have to hand three identical prints, one on Ilford Smooth Pearl, 
one
> on Epson Premium Semigloss and one on Permajet Oyster.  They are
> almost identical papers to looks at, surface, weight, etc.  Could 
they
> actually be the same I wonder???  They were printed with my 4800 
using
> PK black and identical ABW settings.  The prints are all but 
identical
> - you have to look with a supercritical eye to see any  
differences. 
> Except, that is, for the gloss differential.  On the Epson Semigloss
> and the Permajet Oyster the gloss differential is present, is almost
> the same on each paper, but not at an offensive level and only (as 
you
> say) at or very close to base white - i.e. (almost) no ink.  But on
> the Ilford Smooth Pearl it is barely visible - almost non-existent -
> when compared with the other two.  So, maybe Ilford Smooth Pearl is
> the one for glossdiff haters.
> Steve
> http://www.virtuallygrey.co.uk/
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale
> <stevekale@b...> wrote:
> > The only place I see gloss differential issues on the 4800 is 
where
> there is
> > next to no ink on the paper ie pure white or extremely close to 
it.  The
> > residual bronzing is also likely due to think ink coverage areas. 
> Hence a
> > white ink would be nice.  You could then also finally control 
paper
> tone.
> > And there would be no need for optical brighteners....
> > 
> > 
> > > From: <claudej1@a...>
> > 
> > > 
> > > I would opt for 10, as even numbers make more sense since the
> latest Pro
> > > units finally have symmetry with 1/2 the carts on one side and 
the
> other.
> > >  
> > > This way, they could have K3 (which Jon Cone told me all we ever
> needed was
> > > 3 to make good B&W), and add Matte Black AND Super Hard Gloss
> optimizer
> > > (since there is still a trace of gloss differential left on the
> surface AND we
> > > woudn't need to spray or laminate anymore.
> > >  
> > > 
> > > So it would be MK, PK, LK, LLK, C, M, LC, LM, Y, and Glop. A 
truly
>  univeral
> > > machine. Anybody wanna bet?
> > >  
> > > Claude
> > >