Have you thoughts about Moab Kayenta Matte? It is double sided, as well.. Andy -----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Clayton Jones Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:02 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: affordable alternatives to EEM in 44" rolls Hello Allan, >why is it that EEM, with OBAs, turns yellow, but that you suggest that >this paper, also with OBAs, is more archival? >...is the yellowing a result of solely the OBAs, or because of some >other characteristic of EEM in particular? If it's from the OBAs, does >that mean that all papers with OBAs will yellow, either at all or as >much as EEM? I don't think EEM yellows because of OBAs (unless it uses really crummy ones). It yellows (I'm pretty sure) because it contains lignens and may also not be completely acid free. Whatever the reason, it does it with alarming swiftness. There are many archival (acid and lignen free) papers with OBAs that don't change noticeably, even after several years unprotected by glazing under nearly constant light. The subject of OBAs is an ongoing controversy with disagreement even among "experts". There is more information about this at the bottom of the "Great Paper Chase" article at the web link below. >I realize that I am using "archival" incorrectly - EEM doesn't actually >fade, right? Right. Papers don't fade, inks fade. So we have to be clear which we are referring to in our discussions. If we speak of a print fading we're usually talking about an ink problem, although a given ink may fade at different rates on different papers. Clear as mud? <g> Regards, Clayton Info on black and white digital printing at http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Life without art & music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/FXrMlA/dnQLAA/Zx0JAA/ucIolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: affordable alternatives to EEM in 44" rolls
2005-09-16 by Andy Biggs
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