> ... the paper that nobody else seems to like - Ultrasmooth ... I use it and think it's great paper -- perhaps the best there is in some respects. Flaking and other such problems play a major role in my paper selection. I have had very good luck with Epson UltraSmooth and PermaJet Alpha in 24" rolls. I have found no significant flaking or dust problems with them. While Permajet Alpha has an Innova-type coating, the paper base is cotton and not like the similar Innova non-OBA paper I've tried. I'm not sure at all that PermaJet uses the same rendering (cutting) company as the Innova that is sold in the U.S. I hope Permajet finds a good U.S. partner to distribute there "Alpha" paper (at a competitive price, please). Jobo, which is no longer in business in the U.S., and Adorama were the only sources of PermaJet Alpha that I know of in the U.S. I use 24" rolls, and I wonder if there is any processing or cutting differences with these than the 13" or other size rolls. Is it possible some rolls are small volume products that are cut down differently? One reason I like the 7xxx series is that I can use standard 24" paper rolls. (Frankly, I also prefer a paper-size to image ratio that is larger -- i.e., more of a paper margin -- than we usually use for cut sheets and standard image sizes.) I'm tempted to try next the PremierArt 205 24" roll. I think it might have a good price-performance point. (I'm mostly interested in non-brightened papers to avoid yellowing that customers might see as a sign of non-archival paper.) With the Epson K3 technology and drivers the PremierArt-UltraSmooth paper coating may have the dmax advantage now. Paul www.PaulRoark.com Kirk Thompson wrote: > > My personal & similar woes occurred with Entrada Natural - both flaking & > ink > crystallization where the blacks were dense. Many of us have found a > favorite paper from > the standpoint of D max & tone, only to find that the smaller > manufacturers or packagers > have trouble with cutting residue, flaking, ink crystallization, etc. > > For such reasons I've recently settled for BW on the paper that nobody > else seems to like - > Ultrasmooth. The paper base is almost the same tone as a 'classic' > gelatin-silver paper > like Portriga, the blacks are as good as one can get with any paper & > 4000/QTR, and you > encounter no production errors/flaking problems. > > And if you buy the newly-available 13x19 & 17x22 sheets, you get 325g > paper stock with > coating on both sides, and no curling. The high cost of the paper is > offset by the fact that > you can recycle imperfect prints as work-print paper. It's handy that the > 17x22 comes in > bulletproof packaging - no more corners dented in shipping - & that it > makes 2 11x17 > sheets. > > The sheets are covered with an odd white dust that isn't present on the > one-sided roll > paper, but it's easy to wipe off & doesn't seem to affect the print. > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Innova Paper Woes
2005-09-18 by Paul Roark
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