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[Digital BW] Re: BO Printing w/ mk UC ink on Epson 2200

2005-09-26 by vartkes_peltekoglu

I print using BO recipe from Clayton Jones. Eboni ink really makes a 
BIG difference. It is truly BLACK. Also with his recommendation I use 
Red River Aurora Art Card paper. In one of his articles he mentions 
that this combination produces the maximum Dmax as compared to other 
papers. Try is it is impressive especially at 13x19!!
Vartkes

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Richard Sintchak 
<rich815@g...> wrote:
> What is exactly "artificial" about the snap in BO prints? Snap is 
snap. How
> it's created (contrast, sharpness, etc.) does not matter. Just 
curious what
> you mean by that....
>  Richard
> 
> 
>  On 9/25/05, djon43 <djon43@y...> wrote:
> >
> > UC is warmer than Eboni. This is exaggerated with warm paper IMO. 
I
> > like it...reminds me of Agfa's Portriga Rapid :-)
> >
> > In little prints (eg 6X9") black-only "dots" tend to dominate, 
going
> > so far as to obscure some detail. Sometimes this is nice, makes 
some
> > images look snappy. In our recent black-only print exchange a 
print
> > that began as 6X7cm negative obviously lost detail in favor 
of "snap"
> > due to black-only's simulated grain...IMO the same image printed 
via
> > QTR would have had more detail on the tiny 8.5X11 paper, but 
might not
> > have looked as dramatic.
> >
> > In larger prints the dots remain same size as in small prints, 
don't
> > enlarge like silver grain. The dots get forgotten Vs grain or 
image
> > details in larger prints: bigger prints can literally look sharper
> > than small ones.
> >
> > Black-only is sometimes preferable for the artificial "snap" it 
adds
> > to some images. It's a subtle graphic effect that sometimes helps 
images.
> >
> > IMO IMO IMO
> >
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, David Keenan
> > <ausdlk@s...> wrote:
> > > I've been using QTR but I recently tried to do a black only (BO)
> > print directly from Photoshop CS with the settings as described 
in the
> > Clayton Jones article 
(http://www.cjcom.net/articles/digiprn3b.htm)
> > using Epson Matte Black ink.
> > >
> > > The image I got was much warmer then I like (and was 
expecting). I
> > did a test prints on both Epson Heavyweight Matte paper and 
Hahnemühle
> > Photo Rag. The PR print is brighter as one might expect but both 
are
> > warmer then I expect.
> > >
> > > Is this normal? The article referred to using Eboni ink. Would 
this
> > produce significant differences from the Epson ink?
> > >
> > > Also, when comparing the same print made on PR with QTR there 
is a
> > rather obvious increase in apparent sharpness of the print (I'm 
making
> > ~8.5x11" prints). Under a loupe the QTR print is much smoother.
> > >
> > > This brings up maybe the bigger question... why use BO printing 
over
> > a RIP at all?
> > >
> > > Dave.
> > > --
> > > David Keenan, ausdlk@s... on 9/24/2005
> >
> >
> >
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