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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Color Management without instruments (T vs PR )

2005-10-03 by Michael Vendrell

As a physician and an artist - I couldn't agree more
fully with Wendel. Technique or feeling?  Instruments
or observation?  Science or art? Intellect or emotion.
 Objectivity or subjectivity?  YES -all.


Ansel Adams was heavily involved with the Zone System.
 Edward Weston didn't use a light meter.  Some from
the "decisive moment" school used the  maxim "f8 and
be there."  In my opinion all of these have made great
art.  Is one right and the others wrong?  I have my
personal preferences and if you are moved by my work -
you might be interested in how I did it - if not,
probably not.  For other's art and craft I have always
been much more interested in why they did it, rather
than how.  But of, course' on a technical forum such
as this I am most interested in how to best translate
my own vision. And of such want to learn what others
know = regardless of how they leared it. Techne is BTW
a word from ancient Greek and includes all of
"know-how" and not just instrumentation.

As a newbie in some ways and an oldie in others (as I
suspect we all are) I want to hear all that any of us
has to offer from their knowledge and/or experience.
And I enjoy the intelligent and/or heartfelt questions
that urge us all to examine ourselves and grow in our
craft.  

My only caveat is that I do not appreciate the
character attacks and personal insults that have been
thrown by a few of us.  Let's all  share what we know
and love and let the rest of us "take what we can use
and leave the rest".

Michael J. Vendrell, MD

--- Wendel White <wendel@...> wrote:

> > You mean all the bad practices based on the users
> prejudices and what they
> > do well generally get bypassed by technological
> developments and eventually
> > disappear.
> > 
> > Richard
> 
> Richard,
> 
> For me subjectivity is not the same as arbitrary and
> it may be that we have
> different notions of the merits of subjective
> knowledge. Subjectivity can
> (and should) be a very high form of intellectual
> reasoning, a means of
> transcending the limits raw data, gaining real
> understanding and thereby
> producing results that are art.
> 
> Certainly we all know that if you are ill and visit
> two different physicians
> and they both review the same data, one of them
> might be able to "see beyond
> the numbers" to recommend a better course of
> action--using subjective skills
> to assess the situation. The same is true for
> printing - I want both skills
> because neither is of much value without the other.
> 
> Wendel
> 
> 
> 



		
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