As a physician and an artist - I couldn't agree more fully with Wendel. Technique or feeling? Instruments or observation? Science or art? Intellect or emotion. Objectivity or subjectivity? YES -all. Ansel Adams was heavily involved with the Zone System. Edward Weston didn't use a light meter. Some from the "decisive moment" school used the maxim "f8 and be there." In my opinion all of these have made great art. Is one right and the others wrong? I have my personal preferences and if you are moved by my work - you might be interested in how I did it - if not, probably not. For other's art and craft I have always been much more interested in why they did it, rather than how. But of, course' on a technical forum such as this I am most interested in how to best translate my own vision. And of such want to learn what others know = regardless of how they leared it. Techne is BTW a word from ancient Greek and includes all of "know-how" and not just instrumentation. As a newbie in some ways and an oldie in others (as I suspect we all are) I want to hear all that any of us has to offer from their knowledge and/or experience. And I enjoy the intelligent and/or heartfelt questions that urge us all to examine ourselves and grow in our craft. My only caveat is that I do not appreciate the character attacks and personal insults that have been thrown by a few of us. Let's all share what we know and love and let the rest of us "take what we can use and leave the rest". Michael J. Vendrell, MD --- Wendel White <wendel@...> wrote: > > You mean all the bad practices based on the users > prejudices and what they > > do well generally get bypassed by technological > developments and eventually > > disappear. > > > > Richard > > Richard, > > For me subjectivity is not the same as arbitrary and > it may be that we have > different notions of the merits of subjective > knowledge. Subjectivity can > (and should) be a very high form of intellectual > reasoning, a means of > transcending the limits raw data, gaining real > understanding and thereby > producing results that are art. > > Certainly we all know that if you are ill and visit > two different physicians > and they both review the same data, one of them > might be able to "see beyond > the numbers" to recommend a better course of > action--using subjective skills > to assess the situation. The same is true for > printing - I want both skills > because neither is of much value without the other. > > Wendel > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Color Management without instruments (T vs PR )
2005-10-03 by Michael Vendrell
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